To hate three wheeled /over sized buggies with a passion

[Ryoko]

I know I'm going to get flamed over this but I don't care.

I can't stand the things, I think they are stupid, day after day I see them clogging up the shops and buses, they are nothing more then the baby version of a Chelsea tractor.

I hate walking past them in the shops what with them having spikes on the wheels for off road and they take up far too much space on the bus, the things can't even be folded properly not that anyone even tries to fold em even when someone gets on the bus with a wheel chair.

Why do people buy them? they are so stupid, this is London, there is no off road to be had, why do you need a Travel system that costs more then a small second hand car with your carry cot attachment, car seat attachment etc and then spend all day clogging up small shop aisle with it and blocking the gangway on the bus with it?.

Whats wrong with a simple small, light folding buggy that can be bought for less then half the price and in most cases can carry a child up to an older age then the Travel Systems.

I hate London, it's a hole.

People don't get off. People refuse. People say "oh but all my shopping is under it, its too hard to fold".

People don't realise that a 6 year old in school uniform in a disabled buggy is not there for FUN

The most dispicable attitudes I have come across as a parent have been from mothers of babies in ginormous buggies who refuse to make way for my disabled dd, cos it inconvenienced them!

Three-wheelers are not a problem if you buy a 4x4 car and never use public transport

Because if you want your newborn to lie flat and face you, and don't have £420+ for a Bugaboo, you're pretty much stuck with a massive buggy. I wanted small, I wanted light, but safe position and facing me was more important so I have a M&P Sola which is about as big folded as unfolded. Don't drive so will be doing a lot of walking and therefore a buggy is essential (what else am I meant to do?) but I will be trying my best to avoid the bus due to size issues with this behemoth. And if anyone needs to get on with wheelchair/child with disability etc, I will get off the bus and walk!
There are indeed folk who "have" to have big shiny new stuff, but the main issue is with the manufacturers of baby gubbins and their seeming inability to understand the circumstances of those who don't have shedloads of money.

"not that anyone tries to fold them when someone gets on in a wheelchair"..

I don't even have one but YABU to suggest that noone with a big buggy has any consideration for people with disabilities.

I meant to say, it's not unreasonable to hate the buggies but it's pretty unreasonable to assume people only have them because they're tw*ts.

Weegie - thats pretty dispicable. Are you in London did you say?

i meant i would use it to only bash the rude ones out of the way, if you think you are gonna walk into my child and possibly cause an injury then you would know about it. there are so many ignorant sods out there

Maybe I just have a stroppy face, but in 2 years I have NEVER had a mother with a monster buggy either offer to fold or get off for me and dd2.

I've had to stand with folded Maclaren Major and a 5-6 year old on my hip (owwwwch! My back is buggered!)

I had a lady in a wheelchair once offer to get off for us! But she was just as happy to have (delighted) dd2 sit on her knee!

kitty, Im sure the people you state will not need a CHAIR, as they live in their communities, dont have public transport, cant afford one, will not need a chair, as lets be logical here, a pushchair going through a rain forest is not exactly the biggest thing to do, and will be more hassle that its worth!

you cant compare us to third would countries, we have new and advanced technology every single day, and we do things to make our lives easier!

It may not be a need, but it certainly cant be compared to Africa, Now I wonder what society would think of my DH if he went out with just a shawl covering his lower body shopping

We live in the 21st century in the UK (if applicable) , not in the 20th, or other countries, we have resources here

, which we use as it makes our lives more comfortable and easier to travel.

In my area of London, everyone makes way for each other, we squeeze in, everyone has a place. A newborn is nice and cosy in a bigger buggy with a carrycot. Chill out. YABU.

I'm actually in Scotland, and it has totally surprised me the attitudes I have faced.

But then I only use the bus to get form children's school to the station to get the train home and the kids school is in a very posh part of town with thousands of these monsters (they go there for specialist language provision, not out of poshness).

Nothing like getting the bus from West End glasgow to Central Station to see where people are coming from!

weegiemum - that's dreadful. I can imagine the type of twat mother who does that, too.

However - I lived in a city and had a 3-wheeler (from Mothercare, not terribly expensive really) for ds (born almost 10 years ago) and it was bloody fab. But then I walked everywhere. And I would have got off a bus had anyone needed to get on with a wheelchair/major.

Weegiemum - unfortunately I think most people don't recognise anything but a wheelchair as disabled transport. My DD has got quite severe SN but is still small enough for a buggy and we are treated like dirt by pretty much everyone on the bus and the driver, but people can't move out of the way quick enough for wheelchairs.

Ryoko - you know, one of the nice things about London is that you CAN walk. We might well walk 5-6 miles a day around and about. Umbrella folds can't take that kind of treatment for any length of time.

There is no problem with 3 wheel buggies. There is a problem with people being rude. That seems to apply to people complaining about them as well as using them.

brightest not biggest

You're all lucky Riven hasn't come to this thread ()

Why would a newborn being all nice and cosy in a carrycot be more important than my 6 year old not weightbearing and therefore suffering excruciating pain and risking a hip replacement in her 30s.

Get a grip.

Oh oh oh! And I went to London several times with ds and his pushchair and never encountered any hostility on the Tube. I accidentally got caught up in the rushhour once (bad timing) and I was amazed by how helpful, friendly and polite people were. Unlike when I visit London alone.

Gosh am suprised - that sounded a lot like London attitudes iyswim. I never really understand why there aren't more easily folding buggies on the market - we got a city mini baby jogger purely because i need to use the bus a lot, and wanted to be able to fold buggy one handed, whilst carrying baby/shopping/changing bag. It actually made the choice a lot easier - literally nothing else folded that easily.

The attitudes round our neck of the woods are totally different - I've seen more than one bus driver holding a baby whilst mum folds pushchair!

Feck off.

YABVU.

OIS - yes I went to london recently with a pushchair and people were nothing but helpful (not a great big one just my poor battered old foldup), same as when I went just before Christmas 2008.

I have only been to London once with the children. We were passing through changing trains to get to my MILS house the North West. On the tube we didnt have a pushchair (didnt bother taking one) and a man tried to PUSH my three year old (then two) back off the train so he could get on. If I EVER went back there (not very likely) I would take a pushchair so he wasnt so vulnerable.

toccata - which goes to show that not everyone on London is as rude as the OP

IMO people often more reason to have a large pram in the city/town because they walk more than people in the country. If you live in the middle on nowhere chances are you drive to the shops - in the city you walk. I have never walked less than I do now I've moved out of town. Which is why I'm so bloody fat

very true OIS

My Maclaren stroller has seen 2 1/2 years of full time usage walking for miles through Sydney/across beaches(admittedly dragged backwards)/through rainforest and its still going strong even if it looks like an elephant has crapped on it. I use it every day and walk for miles as I don't drive.
I also have a bugaboo, which after lugging it on and off buses a few times has been left to rot. If another baby comes along I will be going from sling to MacLaren - though it will probably have to be a new one for reasons of hygene!
Friends swear by Phil and Teds when you have 2 under 3's, but it pains me to see mothers straining to drag them on and off buses...
However OP, I think you have deep seated issues with travel systems - surely they can't bug you that much? Now Chelsea Tractors...thats a different story....