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Watching Cameron on TV

60 replies

RedbinDippers · 14/03/2010 22:25

He's just another Tory Toff?

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harimosmummy · 15/03/2010 09:17

ewe - YOu really just don't get it, do you?

THe top 2% of the population can live ANYWHERE.
They are not somehow FORCED to live in the UK.
Have you got ANY idea how much tax these people pay? really???????? Slightlystressed - No I am not rude. You are the one who said you had no clue what you were basing your comments on. I simply pointed it out.

All the same, I should add, I've not slept now for about 20 hours so I may be a bit sharp.

sungirltan · 15/03/2010 09:22

i hate cameron, he looks like a salesman but hes the ultimate tory. 'yah yah, i'll look after us rich folk....feck the poor because well its their own fault they are poor and not my problem'

Ewe · 15/03/2010 09:24

I am sorry, most of my family are in the top 2% and none of them will move because of tax issues. I don't believe it's a key motivator for most people to be honest, my parents for one don't care what tax they pay when they are dead!

What keeps them here is me and my children and all of our other family members.

Oh and other countries have inheritance tax too... often at a higher rate for non-residents.

Rollmops · 15/03/2010 09:25

Hear! Hear!

[applauds harimosmummy]

ABetaDad · 15/03/2010 09:26

Did anyone take notice of what Alastair Darling said yesterday? He said he would announce his spending plans after the election. Why not tell us now?

Did anyone watch Gordon Brown on the Politics Show. Tough questions from a live audience of undecided voters in in Stourbridge. I did not think he answered the questions at all well.

This is the stuff that matters. Not what school Cameron went to.

I went to private school and was at Oxford when Cameron was there and yes there were braying toffs and plenty of pretty hypocritical socialists too. Good and bad people of all persuasuasions, politics and backgrounds. We all got drunk and did silly things but that was then and now is half a life time away.

We need to judge people by what they say and do - I am not totally enamoured by Cameron as I think he needs to be clearer on what his polices will be but am damn sure Labour has badly damaged this country and it will take a decade to reverse. They have done nothing about social mobility which is the greatest shame of all.

slightlystressed · 15/03/2010 09:28

harimosmummy I said I don't think he cares about the majority of us. This is the impression that he gives me, it doesn't really matter what percentage of the country have a few million in the bank.

I don't like him.

sarah293 · 15/03/2010 09:35

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clam · 15/03/2010 09:37

riven : "he's a big fibber and makes promises he wont keep."
Whereas Labour, of course, are straight down the line!

sarah293 · 15/03/2010 09:41

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slightlystressed · 15/03/2010 09:41

Rive, my mum was a single mum alos in the 80s and remember her having holes in the bottom of her shoes in the middle of winter, not being able to buy me new school shoes when I lost one, having to budge to buy flipping teatowells, it was horrible, I was the poorest in the class, with the crappiest clothes and I was only a kid and remember the nastiness that was aimed at single mums.

slug · 15/03/2010 09:48

You know, I don't blame Cameron for being posh, that's hardly his fault is it. What does annoy me intensly though, is that, having reached the leadership of the Conservative Party, he then proceeded to stuff his front bench with people exactly lik him. I'm sure there are lots of talented Conservatives who didn't go to Eton, another public school, Oxford or Cambridge. Hell, I actually know a few of them. But you have to ask yourself, why does he not take advantage of this pool of talent? Why does he promote predominantly those who share his background? And what does that say about his, and his cabinet's, ability to understand the views and realities of life of the majority of the population?

I have a friend who has been active in his Conservative association for many years and has his sights on eventually being an MP. He reckons that since Cameron took the leadership his chances of being selected have slipped dramatically and that it is his background (state educated, non-Oxbridge, non-wealthy background, working class parents) that is to blame.

tartyhighheels · 15/03/2010 09:50

I would rather poke out my eyes than vote for him - He is all wrong that man - just a better packaged thatcherite. Partly I would not vote because i have a disabled child and i rely on tax credits etc but mostly it is becuase i remember the last time they were in.... more of the same.

I am sure they could win though just becuase people find themselves wanting a change but i don't think it is a change for the better. Labour has made mistakes of course but on the whole i feel they have improved the plight of poorer working familes, schools and the nhs.

tartyhighheels · 15/03/2010 09:58

I had a friend at school in the 80's who was in a single parent family with no support from the father and her mother struggled beyond all belief to manage to provide for her family - it really was the kind of poverty that you do not see these days - her mum even went without food to feed her children.

Also the stigma their family suffered was incredible,being on ptiful benefits etc. Now at least with ctc and wtc it has reduced the stigma of being in a low paid job etc - it has also enabled people to access childcare so they can be more productive.

honestly it chills me to think the tories will get in

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Ewe · 15/03/2010 10:04

What we should, in theory, all be voting for is a local MP who we feel does the best job for us in our area.

sarah293 · 15/03/2010 10:06

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slightlystressed · 15/03/2010 10:06

Part of the reason I hate the tories so much comes from my experiences as a kid. My so called father had a lot to answer for by not bothering to help mum out, but my mum was treated like a second class citizen by the thatcher government, she did a damn fine job of bringing us up, and we never needed a father figure, just a bit of financial support from somewhere...

slightlystressed · 15/03/2010 10:09

I'm moving on Friday I hope I will still have time to register to vote...

Igglybuff · 15/03/2010 10:21

Cameron is so artificial and fluffy. I wish the Tories would be straight about their policies. They have nothing to lose.

As for the plans for a 50% income tax - it's only an extra 10p as it's currently 40%. I'm a higher rate tax payer as is my DH and we would happily pay the extra.

As for non doms etc leaving the country - let them. They have good accountants who can help them dodge plan tax so they pay very litle anyway.

I grew up in a single parent household in the thatcher years and have no interest in a return those dark days.

herbietea · 15/03/2010 10:27

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Igglybuff · 15/03/2010 10:43

herbie we lived in council housing. My mum struggled on low paid parttime jobs or the dole if no work. I remember her sending us to neighbours to beg for money as the electricity had run out. We used to sit in the kitchen with the gas hobs on for heat/light in the dark. Things were Bad.

CwtchyMama · 15/03/2010 10:53

I had a phone call last week from a member of the Labour party asking me who i would be voting for.

I told him i have been a life long Labour voter but i honestly didnt know who to vote for this time as i didnt know what any of their plans were.

He told me they werent going to release any of their plans as the Tories would pinch them but we were to expect a lot of cuts as there wasnt enough money coming in to support the outgoings.

That phone call decided my mind,i am voting Tory.

iwastooearlytobeayummymummy · 15/03/2010 10:57

I also think Dave is a fake and smug to boot.

It makes me feel queasy too that Sam Cam is supposedly to be revealed as his secret weapon.Don't ever recall being asked to consider whether or not my GP's wife will make him a better GP

And I also remember the 80s

CwtchyMama · 15/03/2010 10:59

I remember the 80s also and i also think that Labour will make cuts & they arent being honest & telling us all what they will be.