that huge buggies should be banned from buses

[donkeyderby]

I was on the bus yesterday, and a woman got on pushing her child in an oversized buggy that took up four fold-up seat spaces.

AIBU to think that if you travel regularly by bus, you should invest in a cheap umbrella-style pushchair that takes only one space up?

YABU.

I had a HUGE pushchair when DD was a baby. It was a Pram with a toddler seat on top for DS2 and a buggy board on the back for DS1. It was so big I'm suprised I wasn't required by law to have a "long vehicle" sign strapped to my behind.

And yes, I caught the bus with it.

SayaNora I bet you are one of those miserable old farts who walk past those 3 empty seats at the front of the bus that are for OLD PEOPLE and then come and hover in my face huffing and puffing because my seat is more appealing to you?

I had to fold my pushchair/buggy when getting on a bus when my two children were little. However, I would not begrudge the use of pram/buggy spaces for today's mums, although, obviously, a wheelchair user would take priority.

It's not just (some) young mums who are ill mannered either. When my DS was 10 months I had to get a bus. When I got to the bus stop there was nobody else there. That bus didn't turn up and when the next one did there was a large number of senior citizens waiting along with me. Not one of them waited for me to move, even though I was, technically, first in the queue. No, they all rushed to get on the bus first, pushing and shoving each other, like some sort of rugby scrum. I swear if I'd moved quicker my son and I would have been trampled on. Just goes to show there are (some) senior citizens who are rude and ill mannered too.

Ok, when I next go into town on the bus, I'll leave the double buggy at home and carry my baby and runaway 3 year old instead! Plus shopping bags, nappy change bag, library bag and handbag!!!

ha, my friend did this getting off the bus once and the dumb ass bus driver drove off with her child still on board! Also, you make it sound so easy but what if you have bad back, mobility problems yourself, severe carpal tunnel like me...doing things 1 handed not so easy then and umbrella fold not an option either, too hard to push with carpal tunnel. These things aren't always cut and dry you know. The problem is as well that my bigger double buggy doesnt fold any smaller really than when its upright! If I was on a bus first and couldnt fold it down would I be kicked off for a wheelchair, with 2 babies in the middle of nowhere? doesnt seem right to me.

sorry that was reply about rivens easy solution to getting on a bus with 2 children

I agree with the two already mentioned about disabilities and major buggies. You really, really should think before you judge.

While DS is actually still in a normal standard umbrella buggy at the moment, we are considering investing in an "oversized" buggy because A) we can't go anywhere without it due to his disability and B) because of the ridiculous comments we already get about him being too big for a buggy. Especially on the bus...
I will happily, without being questioned, take DS out and fold ours up if there is someone with a larger pram or significantly younger toddler in a pushchair PROVIDING that there are enough seats to accommodate us left. (Obviously always when a wheelchair user gets on) NEVER has anyone else offered me that, even when he was a tiny one.
If however I get a comment about he's too big or similar, wasting space or if he is having a particularly bad day, then I wont shift an inch. I don't like to raise issue to my child's disability all that often, because I don't want to seem defensive about it, I don't want DS to continually hear me talking about it when I am angry, as I don't want him (or others) to feel that he is only the disability and not his own person too, I don't want more judgement than I already ready get (trust me, there are some cruel people out there) so I act like I can't hear their comments. Besides, why the hell should I have to excuse my son being in a buggy? What business is it of anyone's?

I'd like to say, that I think those people who persistently use the wheelchair/buggy spaces and are not disabled or infirm, but who do not move unless told to do so by the driver (if driver bothers) should be banned. Because they are just downright ignorant.

Well said caitielo, that last line is very true, not sure about being banned, how about shot!

OP - YABU. For all of the reasons everyone else has put.

Another 'hear hear' for caitielo and Riven. DS1 is almost 4 but has cerebral palsy and again, doesn't 'look' disabled unless you talk to him (actually he's so tall he looks about 6). We have a major buggy but I more frequently take him on the bus with DS2 (14 mo)in his big pushchair with the buggy board for DS1. As DS1 as v poor balance I have to either stand him on the board and stand behind him to protect him from falls (in which case I have to leave the buggy up for ballast and for somewhere to keep DS2) or I have to put DS1 on a nearby seat and sit next to him to stop him falling (and still need the buggy to put DS2 in). Thank god we live in London with accessible buses, we'd be screwed anywhere else, as even folded the Behemoth (DS2's pushchair) with buggy board attached is a wide load!

As a professional nanny I know that "piss cheap" (yeah right!!) pushchairs are not suitable for newborns and should not be used until the age of at least 10 months. Buggies are big for a reason and that reason is that babies need to be in a comfortable environment with lots of comfort and blankets etc and to have them sat up in the push chair is proven to be bad for the formation of their spinal chord. Plus if that bus had an accident my little one in the bigger push chair is less likely to get hurt because of the fact that she is strapped into the buggy and the bulky buggy would take the brunt of the force and not the baby.

Good lord, Nanny. Have you only joined this forum to post about bloody pushchairs on buses? I'm not even on Mumsnet that often anymore, but I can always count on seeing you on these threads harping on about pushchairs vs wheelchairs and the importance of babies being comfortable. This thread is seven years old. Get over it!

Double - sized buggies should be kicked off the buses, it takes up too much space on the buses.

Mothers with far too big and bulky prams taking up too much space on the buses are branded an anti social menace. Double sized buggies should be kicked off the buses and trains too.