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To think some people are unfair to their inlaws

34 replies

swanandduck · 18/02/2010 10:51

Have been reading through old threads on this forum and, while some of them describe outrageous liberties or rudeness from mothers in law, can I just say, at the risk of being flamed, that some people seem to be ridiculously sensitive to any perceived 'interference' from their dh's parents. Obviously incidents where someone describes their daughter in law's adopted brother as not 'real' family, or completely restyles a granddaughter's hair without permission are unacceptable. But posts complaining bitterly about loving grandparents wanting to buy presents for the children or take them to the pantomime or cut a micro centimetre from the end of their hair rather than upset the child by pulling a comb through the tangles make me feel quite sad. Surely one of the great things about being a grandparent is that you get to indulge and spoil the kids a little, in a way that you could not do when your own children were little. My parents were reasonably strict but they never stopped my grandmother taking us off into town to have a bit of fun buying cheap junky toys, or giving us chocolate biscuits, or inviting us round for 'parties' consisting of all the rubbish kids love to eat. It didn't change the way I was brought up by my parents, but it left me with great memories of a lovely lady who died when I was nine. I am so glad my parents didn't go on with 'no, chocolate biscuits are bad for them', 'they've enough toys, all that junk is just taking up space' etc. I know they're 'our' kids but they're also part of a wider family and, for grandparents in particular, are the most important people in the world next to their own children. My entire family went on a holiday together last Summer to celebrate my parent's 50th anniversary in the seaside town where they lived when they were first married. My father, who is in poor health and aware he may not have that much time with his grandchildren, was not allowed by my sister in law to buy his grandsons an ice cream cone to eat on the beach even though he was obviously dying to. I really felt like saying to her 'would you give him a break, for crying out loud'. He also absolutely loves giving his grandchildren exciting Christmas presents. I don't mind, but my mother is constantly apologising nervously to my sister in law (this wasn't my idea, Bill insisted).
I just think people could cut their inlaws (it's usually the in laws who get this kind of criticism) some slack and let them enjoy being grandparents without being constantly afraid of treading on toes.
And yes, I do have children and I do have in laws and I'm not perfect but I really try to relax and let my parents in law feel like a part of my kids' lives and enjoy being able to indulge them a little without being afraid of causing an atmosphere.
Anyway, I'm not saying all of the criticism against in laws on here is unjustified, and realise that mums can be more open with their own mum while having to bit their tongue with parents in law which might explain why they vent so much on here, but seriously - give some of them a break. They're just trying to do their best.

OP posts:
allaboutme · 18/02/2010 10:56

Good post. I feel exactly the same!
I hope that when my DS's are older they will go for partners that have a similar point of view too!

VinegarTits · 18/02/2010 10:56

YABU you dont know the background, so how can you assume they are being unfair?

GhoulsAreLoud · 18/02/2010 10:57

YANBU

nevesnana · 18/02/2010 10:59

Hear hear !!!!!!!!
All the mums on here will probably be a mum-in-law one day and we all know what goes around comes around.

crazycrazy · 18/02/2010 11:05

Not all the complaints are about the inlaws indulging the children or interfering though

for your dad about the ice-cream

Blatantly · 18/02/2010 11:07

I totally agree. As a mother of an only ds, it really worries me that I might be treated like this in the future, & always let my inlaws be as involved as they want with their grandchild.

I wish that some of the women who are complaining could think about how they would feel in a few years time, when they are mils, if they were treated the same.

OldLadyKnowsNothing · 18/02/2010 11:10

I am very, very glad that the mother of my PFGC is a fabulous woman, and very understanding of my foibles. Her mother, however, is a nutter.

Tommy · 18/02/2010 11:11

I think the MIL/DIL relationship is probably one of the hardest to manage. If women can't come on MN to have a good old moan about their MILs. then where can they go?

My MIL is actually a very nice person but does, at times, drive me crazy and because she's not my mum, I can't just tell her what I think...

violethill · 18/02/2010 11:12

I agree.

One thing that really grates with me, that crops up a lot on MN, is when parents are quite happy to take advantage of the grandparents for free childminding, but then act like total control freaks about what the grandparents must/must not do. Some parents seem incredibly selfish about this.

Ziggurat · 18/02/2010 11:28

Couldn't agree more. As a Mum to a boy, I'm totally aware that one day it will be me in those shoes, and I'd hate to be excluded or side-lined.

My MIL and I are not very close at all - we're on friendly terms and chat and all the rest, but not close - but we both go out our way to ensure a good, open relationship. She never tells me what to do and always supports my decisions. I try to include her whenever I can (given she lives in another country).

I would hate to end up with a bad relationship with a DIL one day - although very much see that some do have difficult MILs to deal with.

OP - that's so sad and utterly ridiculous about your Dad not being able to by his grandkids an ice-cream. Your SIL sounds like a miserable battle-axe.

JaneS · 18/02/2010 11:41

Looking at what Tommy said:

'My MIL is actually a very nice person but does, at times, drive me crazy and because she's not my mum, I can't just tell her what I think..'

I wonder if there's an inverse correlation between the quality of your relationship with your MIL, and the quality of your relationship with your mother? Certainly there's plenty of people on other threads who've said that their MIL is lovely and the problem is their own mum.

venusonarockbun · 18/02/2010 11:42

I completely agree with you.

MorrisZapp · 18/02/2010 11:52

Totally agree. Never is it more apparent then when your own beloved mum is also a MIL to your SIL, and you see the dynamic from the other side.

swanandduck · 18/02/2010 12:25

Glad so many people agree with me. I just want to clarify, in relation to my SIL that she is actually a lovely girl and we're all very fond of her. She is just very anxious to stick to the rules and make sure she's a good mum and sometimes loses sight of the fact that my dad adores those boys and should be allowed indulge them now and again. He is their grandad after all.

OP posts:
twotimes · 18/02/2010 13:04

The problem for me is that my mom doesn't go against anything I say in terms of dc's. She's prepared to let me learn from my own mistakes, and if she doesn't agree with something she tends to have a quiet word (not feed a 10 month old chocolate biscuits because he won't stop crying ).

I honestly think the dil/mil relationship is caused because of the dh. I knew my mil was happy for me to marry her son because she pretty much drowned me in thank you's and congratulations lol. However, I've heard horror stories about mil's who resent a woman or don't think she's good enough etc etc, and you can't recover from that. Also dh's can sometimes run back to their mother for support instead of turning to you.

for example when I had first ds I had my own ideas on how to raise him but dh kept calling his mom and saying mil says you shouldn't do this, and babies don't cry for any reason, and blah blah blah and it sowed a seed of resentment in me that I've found it hard to let go of.

I am now starting to let it go slowly though lol and it is absolutely lovely to see my dc's adore their grandparents on both sides (and great great grandparents on mine).

Ziggurat · 18/02/2010 13:16

"I honestly think the dil/mil relationship is caused because of the dh"

This is an interesting point twotimes.

My MIL to be took against me in quite a major way right from the start - I think because I'm from New Zealand and she was terrified that I was going to take her (unacknowledged) favourite son so far away.

I can understand why that would be upsetting for her, so didn't let it get to me and tried not to take it personally.

But the point is that my DH made it quite clear that he wasn't going to be dissuaded or put off, and it was like me or lump me, so she went with the latter.

mylifemykids · 18/02/2010 15:01

My MIL wore black to our wedding, complete with black hat and veil. I don't think she likes me much!!

I do agree that they get a rough deal but sometimes they don't help themselves!

I agree with the OP that some people over-react to situations and need to learn to breathe and count to 10. But MN is a great place to let off steam!

shockers · 18/02/2010 15:12

Perhaps she wanted to look slim mylife .

My own mum has really taken against my bro and new SIL over their choice of wedding... at least that's her public reason. I think she's terrified of not being included because SIL is very close to her parents. Mum can't see that it's her own behaviour that will drive a wedge between them

meatntattypie · 18/02/2010 15:19

you are probably right but i cant help it. I feel agreived and want to come on here and moan cos i cant say anything to dh, i would hate to upset him or cause bad feeling between us, i cant say anything to the ils because i am unreasonable, but feel some how justified in my unreasonable attitude.

Its the way i feel and you lot will damned well know about it, if you dont want to, then ignore, other wise just offer me a shoulder, some sympathy and a bit of cake would not go amiss...

OrmRenewed · 18/02/2010 15:24

"Also dh's can sometimes run back to their mother for support instead of turning to you.
"

Well that applies to DW's too I think.

Sassybeast · 18/02/2010 15:41

MY mIL is seriously toxic. Seriously. So I do wnvy those whose biggest gripe is an MIL who gives an illicit choccie biccy

CinnabarRed · 18/02/2010 15:41

couldn't agree more.

Abihattie · 18/02/2010 15:54

I take your point. I think the trivial things that IL's do irritate us more than if it's our own parents. It's harder to say something to them than it is to our own folks.

My relationship with my MIL has improved over the years but we've both had to work at it. I try not to think about the things that have happened in the past but they do crop up now and again - like the first time that I stayed at their house (spare bedroom of course!) and then she rang me to tell me that I'd left a dirty mark on the bedcover with my bag. What a great start to our relationship that was

Rejessta · 18/02/2010 16:02

I guess I am a little more forceful than most so I don't really have IL issues. I am definitely going to get it for this, but I do feel that many people bring these issues on to themselves by not drawing firm lines in the sand, clearly expressing what they want or by negotiating issues poorly.

I am sure some MILs are awful, controlling old harridans but we are all adults and all quite capable of putting them in their place, calmly but firmly, and moving on. I find polite disengagement is very powerful: "Oh dear, you seem a little tired and crabby today dear, why don't we leave this to another day. Good-bye." Getting emotional and angry only empowers bad behaviour - I refuse to allow hurt to rule my life.

Different of course if you're living with them in which case I would recommend what the Spanish refer to as a 'well cooked soup' (a popular and ancient remedy for abusive husbands).

Jux · 18/02/2010 16:26

I had to be very very careful to treat my MIL in exactly the same way I treated my mum, even to the amount of time they spent with dd. The first thing MIL would say to me as she came through the front door was "When did your mum last see dd?" and then proceed to quiz me about how long, what they did etc. I tried to make sure that they each spent exactly the same amount of time each week with dd, but MIL would always turn up unexpectedly too, which mum never did. She was trying to catch me out. It was horrible, especially as, if she 'caught' my mum there she would be so rude to her (but in oh such a sweet way). I loathe and despise the woman and always will, I'm afraid.

(DD still sees her, but I always find reasons not to - helped by having moved 150 miles away.)

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