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To lie about DD2s age

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princessparty · 14/02/2010 22:08

Went to a big climbing wall today.You have to be 6 to climb and DD2 is nearly 5 but would have been really bored watching the other DC.
She is a tiny little thing who actually looks younger than her age anyway but they didn't question it.Was glad I did lie as she climbed all the beginner walls very quickly ( although she didn't bother with sticking to just one colour holds as she just wasn't physically large enough) She then moved on to bigger walls which are about 4-storeys high and she even had a good go at overhangs in the bouldering section.There is no danger really as DH was supervising and belaying for her.
So is it unreasonable to ignore age restrictions ?

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Northernlurker · 15/02/2010 12:27

PP is plainly the sort of person you wouldn't want your brother to marry!

What a numpty. Nearly 6 would be one thing, not even five is quite another. If one child gets unbearably bored watching others do age appropriate things then you as the parent deal with that by doing something else with that child.

PixieOnaLeaf · 15/02/2010 12:30

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FiveGoMadInDorset · 15/02/2010 12:32

Yes you are, like you have been on other AIBU threads you have started, why start them if you don't give a toss anyway. You just carry on and ignore any rules that upset you, stop you enjoying your life.

cocolepew · 15/02/2010 12:36

I agree with FiveGoMad, why start an AIBU when you so obviously think you aren't? And anyone that disagrees with you is wrong

Needy attention seeker.

MadameCastafiore · 15/02/2010 12:39

God you are a prat aren't you.

Even if there wasn't an accident and health and safety visited and it came to light that a younger child had been using the facilities they would be in serious trouble - putting peoples jobs at risk, their ability to pay their mortgage and house their family maybe or just to put food on the table until they find another job all beacuse you do not have the abilty to parent your child properly.

upahill · 15/02/2010 12:52

StayingDavid.....The H&S exe don't necessary have dealings with all places of work.In this case it would be AALA. (Adventerous Activities Licensing Authority.) All places that do adventerous activities have to be AALA inspected. To hold this license they would have to comply with certain requirements. If AALA finds that this is not happpening it can take measures to remove the license- effectivly shutting the buisness down.

The general public may not be aware of AALA and my suggestion would be if they thought a centre was operating incorrectly they should report it to their Local Authority H&S person who would then get things moving.

upahill · 15/02/2010 13:17

By the way AALA do a(quite rightly ) very rigerous inspection. They have been known to meet us on a mountain in Scotland and spend the rest of the day with the group.

The need to see all our documents, ask us questions about how we operate and then demand that we show them evidence of that. They will go and talk to the young people and ask seemingly innocent questions such as are you warm enough? have you had a good day?, what have you had to eat? They inspect our equipment and make recomendations and come back to make sure any changes have been implemented.

Iget OFSTEDed too!!!

piscesmoon · 15/02/2010 13:25

I had intended to write the insurance wouldn't cover not would cover!
Apart from the insurance question I'm not so sure that it is fair on the older children to have lots of younger ones. 6 yrs seems a fair starting age to me. It doesn't hurt to just have to watch, they have got it to look forward to when they are old enough.

StayingDavidTennantsGirl · 15/02/2010 13:52

So, princessparty - by doing what you did, you could have got the climbing place closed down - even though your dd didn't have an accident.

Still think you are being reasonable??

hobnobsaremyfavourite · 15/02/2010 13:54

Oh not her again

PixieOnaLeaf · 15/02/2010 14:10

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hobnobsaremyfavourite · 15/02/2010 14:12

Pixie do we even care?

suitejudyblue · 15/02/2010 14:27

I can see where PP is coming from as one of my DCs would love to do an activity that the older ones do and easily looks old enough to qualify but the thing that stops me is what would happen if there was an accident. I don't think its fair to put the activity provider in that position however remote it may be and have explained that to my DC and friends of mine who do allow their younger siblings to join in.
I'm not a natural worrier by any means but this sort of thing does concern me - suppose the child was injured and there was no insurance to cover future costs, lives would be ruined just because you don't think the rules apply to you.
I suspect PP may not answer as she is busy getting ready to charge into her school at 3.21pm - or maybe not as its half term

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princessparty · 15/02/2010 17:22

I haven't been around today , not because i've run away but because I have a real life too !
I don't charge into school until it is at least 3.30 , the official finishing time.BTW there was a girl who didn't get to the gym class til 4.15 last week and they wouldn't let her take part for health and safety reasons (ie missed warm up).I have now told the school that DD2 will get herself changed into her leotard under her uniform at last playtime and that I will have to collect them both at 3.30 on the dot .
Back to the climbing wall.Even if the inspectors had come round, how would they have known who was underage and who wasn't ?
And as for the insurance issue.Well their insurance would only pay out in any case if the operators were negligent.

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upahill · 15/02/2010 17:25

PP why do you think it is a good idea to lie to suit yuor wants?

An accident isn't necessay negligance. Please read my posts or are you being provacative for the sake of it which I really suspect.

Bucharest · 15/02/2010 17:25

I bet you're one of those who'd be the first screaming "we're not going to let them get away with this" though if your daughter had fallen on her head. Do you go on local telly and that, mouthing off about your rights and compensation? You seem like the sort who does.

lockets · 15/02/2010 17:27

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PixieOnaLeaf · 15/02/2010 17:31

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upahill · 15/02/2010 17:35

Pixie we are getting sucked in again!!!
Bet it never even happened and someones taking the Mick but like I said before even if this is a wind up it is a very commonplace attitude.

FabIsGoingToBeFabIn2010 · 15/02/2010 17:40

PP - what would you have done if there had been an accident and your child had been injured or killed?

PixieOnaLeaf · 15/02/2010 17:40

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princessparty · 15/02/2010 17:45

'I bet you're one of those who'd be the first screaming "we're not going to let them get away with this" though if your daughter had fallen on her head'

How would she fall on her head ?The only way would be if she wasn't tied on properly (Dh did this so I know he wouldn't take any chances)or if their equipment failed, in which case ,yes , I would happily throw the book at them , or the manufacturers

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SolidGoldBrass · 15/02/2010 17:46

I can see both sides of this TBH. I think the OP is wrong to have done somethingwhich put someone else's business at risk but it's understandable to be sick of all the enddless piddling rules and 'health and safety' crap there is around these days.
But the right answerwould be to take DC rock climbing on a mountainside or something, where you assess the risks to your own DC yourself.

mrspoppins · 15/02/2010 17:47

lockets...do you think that PP has little else to do with her life!!!