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To lie about DD2s age

254 replies

princessparty · 14/02/2010 22:08

Went to a big climbing wall today.You have to be 6 to climb and DD2 is nearly 5 but would have been really bored watching the other DC.
She is a tiny little thing who actually looks younger than her age anyway but they didn't question it.Was glad I did lie as she climbed all the beginner walls very quickly ( although she didn't bother with sticking to just one colour holds as she just wasn't physically large enough) She then moved on to bigger walls which are about 4-storeys high and she even had a good go at overhangs in the bouldering section.There is no danger really as DH was supervising and belaying for her.
So is it unreasonable to ignore age restrictions ?

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twotimes · 14/02/2010 22:45

Sorry but I agree with most of the ladies, YABU, if she had fallen or hurt herself you, they're insurance wouldn't have covered it, you wouldn't have been compensated you would have been pissed and argued what kind of establishment is this not to warn parents and check age restrictions. They have age restrictions for a reason.

fluffles · 14/02/2010 22:45

she would not be insured as others have said so you are being VV unreasonable.

in today's litiginous society it's hard enough to get insurance for these kinds of fantastic activities for children.

you'll wonder why next time they have to demand to see birth certificates before allowing anybody on the wall

upahill · 14/02/2010 22:45

Princessparty I would have been furious if you had done that to me!! This is one of my works areas and we have reasons for age restrictions. Mainly insurance. How dare you make a mockery of it. While accidents are very rare accidents by the very nature of the activity occur. You never know what may happen, your DH may have got distracted by some one else, she could have lunged forward anything. Ok unlikely but still possible. You are disrespectful and dishonest and a cheat in this instance. Shame on you!

scottishmummy · 14/02/2010 22:48

slack attitude and bragging about it.
classy

princessparty · 14/02/2010 22:51

Twotimes .she would be stopped by the rope if she slipped.
I am finding difficult to imagine how the swinging rope accident happened at a professional well run wall.There are no swinging ropes they are lying flat against the wall face.Each one at a good distance from the next.It is very hard to envisage how this terrible accident could occur.I could imagine the worst accident possible would be a mild bumping of the knee against the wall face if a chil slipped and swung a little

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mrspoppins · 14/02/2010 22:51

PP..You don't seem to care at all about whether or not you were being unreasonable so why bother posting? You don't seem to be taking anyone's thoughts on board.

PixieOnaLeaf · 14/02/2010 22:54

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ilovemydogandmrobama · 14/02/2010 22:54

I was specific about bouldering which is usually no more than 2 - 3 feet falling distance as the purpose is to develop technique. And all the climbing centers I've been to have the same sort of soft floors as soft play centers.

upahill · 14/02/2010 22:54

Princessparty you seem to be able to see in to the future and predict that there will be no accidents.

I hate people with your attitude who come to my place at work and tell me that their kid will be ok even though they are not the age I can work with. Must be amazing to have a built in crystal ball!!!

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mrspoppins · 14/02/2010 22:57

Pixieonaleaf...I wouldn't waste your breath..It seems that princessparty just wants to be told she was fine and as we're not agrreeing, she isn't learning anything as she is simply arguing back...I hear a hot chocolate beckoning and I am bowing out!!

penguin73 · 14/02/2010 22:58

Well said Mrs P! Accidents do happen on climbing walls - ropes do not prevent you from falling, only from falling a great distance as they are dependent on the person belaying to keep them taut/give the climber the correct amount of slack as required. You mentioned that you let her go on the overhangs - where a fair amount of slack is necessary and where it is very easy to slip and bang faces/heads. As I said earlier (but which hasn't been deemed worthy of comment), accidents are rarely foreseen or predictable, hence why they are called accidents and hence why companies are required to have insurance!

upahill · 14/02/2010 22:59

This thread is getting me mad because I get people like princessparty nearly every day who think that rules don't apply to their DC or that accident can't possibly happen or that it's ok to put workers in a bad position by lying to them,

Often my minimum age is 11 for some activites but I get parents saying ' I know he is only 9 1/2 but he has done this activity before. So not the point.

I can only take 10 kids in some sessions because that is what my NGB quallifies me to take but I still get ..'but one more won't make a difference' grrrrrrrrrrrrr!!

mrspoppins · 14/02/2010 23:00

upahill...do you want a hot chocolate? Kettles on!

upahill · 14/02/2010 23:01

Yeah I'll be along in a mo Mrs P thanks!!!!

wilkos · 14/02/2010 23:01

yabu. and arrogant about it.

you are in the wrong thread as clearly you are not the slightest bit interested in whether yabu or not, you just want tell us all what a great free spirited mummy you are

great example to set re; lying btw

aoyama · 14/02/2010 23:05

She is your dd, its up to you to decide what is an acceptable risk to her.

It is not up to you to decide what an acceptable risk to the owner of the climbing wall. He doesn't know that you know there won't be an accident. He doesn't know that your DH has some sort of accident prevention force field around him. He has decided (with his insurance company) that you have to be 6 to climb. If he decides that its a stupid rule and there is no real danger and he will waive the age restriction then that is up to him. It is his business that he will lose. It is not up to you to make that decision for him. If he loses his business because of your stupidity then you have no consequences but for him it will be devestating. By all means take risks in your own life but don't take risks on other peoples behalf. It is utter twatery.

PixieOnaLeaf · 14/02/2010 23:10

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MrsGokWantsatidyhouse · 14/02/2010 23:53

Princess you are a complete and utter piss taker, you seem to think the world revolves around you and no one else matters. You have no regard for anybody in this life and I feel sorry for your children. This is not the first time you have posted a thread like this and on htat one to you had a similar attitude and it was almost a majority that you were being unreasonable.

You need to look very seriously at your attitude.

And on that note I will bid you goodnight and go to bed.

psychomum5 · 15/02/2010 00:51

princess you are acting up to you name.....you really do have an over inflated sense of self importance don;t you!

you really don;t get how unreasonable you are, so I don;t get why you post. You are one of those smug twats who think that the world should revolve around them, and sadly, you are raising children who will be like yourself, and will likely be friendless too.

I feel sorry for your daughters, I truly do.

Pikelit · 15/02/2010 01:48

OP is an idiot.

gigglewitch · 15/02/2010 01:56

irresponsible, Princess. I debated it (and didn't) when ds2 was wanting to go for his 6th birthday treat, am also a competent climber. I thought that doing it actually on his sixth birthday was taking the piss. I would throttle someone who wanted to take those risks on my insurance.

tortoiseonthehalfshell · 15/02/2010 05:45

So it's okay to complain when a school goes 5 minutes overtime because it's not sticking to the rules, but when the rules inconvenience you it's okay to flout them.

Great.

I've lied about my daughter's age before, I admit; she was 1yr 5 days old and the place charged an adult admission for 1 yr and older - so, oops, a week came off.

But sending a small 4 year old onto 6+ equipment because you, who are not a professional climber or provider, deem it safe? Totally unreasonable.

You seem to be under the misapprehension that the world revolves around you and your daughters, princess. It doesn't.

WidowWadman · 15/02/2010 06:02

If you want to take her climbing, do it outdoors. No insurance issues or age restrictions. Problem solved.