to be annoyed that my cleaner has been using my PC without asking?

[LaDiDaDi]

Today I came home and, after looking on mumsnet, went to go on facebook. I noticed that the email address on the log in page is my cleaner's. She must have been on my PC on facebook when she was here cleaning.

Now usually I really like my cleaner, I give her 20 pounds a week for around 2 hours work, she is friendly and if I'm in then we have a chat. When I had ds recently she brought him a lovely gift and if I ask her to do some more hours, paid for obv., then she tries to fit them in. BUT, I'm a bit annoyed about this, I don't think that she should have been on my PC without permission.

AIBU? If not should I say something or just make sure that my PC log in is passworded and not mention it?

What Aitch said.

And love the use of the word 'staff' by someone upthread.

I wouldn't even take the liberty of logging into a good friend's laptop without checking it was ok first.

this isnt poor wee wummin cleaner oppressed by bad employee.it is not a sob story of working for tuppence and a slap for her troubles.cleaner offered £10ph which she accepts.a transaction both parties agreed to.both have capacity.certainly not minimum wage

so less of the faux class war shite

shocked at Aitch's and steelfairy's views.

Thanks again for your views.

Will password PC and let my friend who she also cleans for know as I'd guess that she is as haphazard about her PC as I am.

This is a gross invasion of privacy. I would be livid if my cleaner did this. I wouldn't say anything, but would just stop using her.

As for the relationship OP has with her cleaner being "blurred", I totally disagree. It was my PAs birthday today, I bought her presents. It doesn't mean the lines of our relationship are blurred. She is still my employee. Equally, when it was DDs birthday and she bought her presents, our relationship didn't change, she was still my employee. As is my cleaner.

piss off with your faux class war, sm, no-one's even saying that. the woman just overstepped the mark a bit, that's all, presumably because she thinks that she has a good enough relationship with the OP for her to trust her to do nothing else than log onto fb. well, she'll soon know better (and i take it the OP won't be accepting any more gifts from her either?)

i've cleaned and i've worked in call centres, actually, and i know which i found harder. depends whether you're a good cleaner, i suppose. but if you find it stressful having someone keep tabs on you all the time i suggest you don't work for the 'i pay her to clean' brigade.

a measured response there.eloquently put.that will really convince others your not talking keech or a bitty crabbit

Since when did present exchange mean that it is then suddenly okay to access someone's personal computer?

As I said before - I wouldn't dream of going onto a good friend's (or even families) computer without checking it was ok first.

oh i consider using the pc without asking absolutely not on, as i've said repeatedly. i just wouldn't be sacking her or not paying her. i'd just put a password on there and think myself stupid for not having done so beforehand. (all laptops are passworded in this house, though, because they can be pinched so quickly and easily).

she didn't access the personal computer, she looked at her own account on fb. all the rest is in your heads.

YANBU

Never mind all your personal accs etc what if she knows your mn nickname now?

true, i don't. nor do the people who wish to sack her.

What?? She accessed her own account on fb using the personal computer. Therefore she accessed the computer. Not sure how you're distinguishing. It really doesnt matter, its just wrong.

it matters if you're planning to sack her for it, imo it matters a great deal.

the known irrefutable fact unauthorised use of pc

it irked LaDiDaDi enough to post

breach of trust. a big no no

YANBU

Awful IMO. I would fire her with immediate effect.

OP, can't you check if she used your PC either just to send a message (if perhaps she needed to contact someone quickly), or to see if she just spent hours browsing/playing around?

Use your judgement. If you really think she is taking the piss, then give her notice. But if this is a one-off, and you get on well, and she's doing a job you're happy with, then keep her on.

Either way, maybe you should use a password on the PC.

Should have added: speak to her about it too, of course, to establish parameters.

By AitchTwoOhOneOh Mon 01-Feb-10 21:11:54
she didn't access the personal computer, she looked at her own account on fb. all the rest is in your heads.

Not in my books, sorry. She went onto a personal computer. Therefore, she accessed the personal computer. Not on. Breach of trust.

I can't imagine my headteacher would be too impressed if I decided to log onto FB on her personal laptop without asking her first. Same thing, both wrong and breach of trust. I would expect to face disciplinary procedures.