To think these old people are mean to not share their lovely snow?

[TheDevilWearsPrimark]

We live very close to an almshouse building - they have a huge garden with a couple of hills.

I've tried taking DS (asd) out in the local park but he was overwhelmed by the crowds (all london parks are packed when it snows)

I was cheeky so knocked on one of the doors to ask if the DC could play for 1/2 hour and she said 'of course'

So we had fun then had three angry men asking why we were on their garden so left.

It is still almost untouched snow- why do they want to 'keep' it?

Myseld=f and two preschoolers sledging in a wok for at best 1/2 hour (at which point DD cries and wants to go home) is hardly going to cause carnage.

I do see that it's disappointing, given that one person who lives there said ok.

But that's one person - not everyone. and unless she is the official decision maker for the whole lot of them, she spoke without authority.

And the whole they are lucky to live in those places argument, well, by that logic then so are housing association or council tenants, so people in private lets, or with mortgages should be able to go into the communal (for the tenants of the block only!) garden of a block of council flats and play, if one person has said they don't mind, but even if the others do mind.

It's their home. It's their decision and you've got no right to go on the land because they are lucky to live there.

YABU.

Brave the park - or another public space if that one Is too busy. There are lots of smaller squares and green spaces in London

Some people do not like noise. Some people would like the lovely view of a pristine snow-covered lawn out of their window in their garden.

Does not make them miserable. And being OLD is nothing to do with it

AIBU - Yes - No I'm not feck off.

WHY ASK???

It's me who had the fresh virgin snow and whose husband drove off the teenagers, not the OP.

And they did come back and jumped on all dd's snowmen.

And she's 10, not 3. And imo has seen snow before and we could have let the boys have a snowball fight.

I am taking your opinion on board bumbling as I assume it is directed at me, not TheDevil. I also agree with you. DH, however, doesn't.

BTW, I live in a highly populous, kid-heavy London borough, and the park was deserted today. So I'm a bit confused

How does anybody know in advance that your kids only play for half an hour? How do they know your kids don't want to play all day, and that they'll enjoy it so much that they'll get you to text your other pals etc etc...

I'm wondering why you asked if you were BU if you believe so strongly that in fact you are totally in the right?

You aren't going to give an inch so why ask really.

Okay maybe I am

I just thought having asked it would be okay.

DS was really upset.

To throe another question in, AIBU now DD is sleeping to take DS for a trudge around in the snow, to try to get him used to it?

Yes it's late but he won't be asleep until 11pm at least anyway as my sister is here and he gets lively with guests

Be careful if you go out now - 'tis very icy on the pavements. I slipped and bashed my head today .....

Yes YABU to take him out.

Only kidding, he'll probably love it!

i love going out at night in the snow, everything just looks so weird and bright!

It's also lovely how quiet it is outside when it's snowy

He actually just asked for bed - and is now snoring!

Result - really this happens at best once a month.

Jux - No offence, I knew it wasn't the OP, just a point being made in cyberspace etc. Sorry about your snowmen, would piss me off too.

Just trying to make broad brushstorkes. Ditto with ALmshouses. These are generous things, as are council houses, they are about all of us - I stress ALL - being comunity minded. Caring about others. Paying our taxes

Re small gardens, can't remember who it was. Blardy hell. I believe the phrase is "naff orf". She has small garden and a group funded by others has huge untouched garden. Who cares who owns what. It's a community, we all live together and untouched snow, being chased off equals trashed snowmen. That's the end of it. That's what happens if you keep yourself to yourself and your stuff to you. Don't pay taxes. Get a sick kid go to hospital, p0ay for your own drugs. Who cares. I'm all right jack.

Fond of hyperbole aren't you Bumbling?

Should I invite everyone into my garden and even my home then?

There is a happy medium. I'm very much in favour of looking after others via benefits, the NHS etc but that doesn't mean that I shouldn't be allowed to enjoy my private space without intrusion.

Bumbling, are you saying that everyone should allow people onto their property? If you own your home and large garden, no mortgage, deeds all yours! does the community have the moral right to come round if they want to?

No way am I happy with the idea that if you are housed by the state then you should allow the general public to treat your property as their own.

Private space is private space, regardless of who exactly picks up the tab for your home and indeed garden.

Aren´t some Almshouses funded by legacies, not taxes?

Bumbling " being chased off equals trashed snowmen."

Where's the community feel about that then?
Being chased off (or just requesting someone leave) should result in a recognition of someone else's right to privacy if that's what they want/need.

There might be some louts etc but they shouldn't be viewed as a natural result of someone denying them something. It's a result of bad manners, unsociableness or even just youthful devilment.

And I agree with MorrisZap
"Private space is private space, regardless of who exactly picks up the tab for your home and indeed garden."