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to not know the sex of my brother's babies based on their names?

105 replies

mrscrocoduck · 21/11/2009 21:43

He's just had twins, Brook and Drew. One was going to be a boy (apparently) and one a girl, but now I'm embarrassed because I can't tell from the names which is which.

Had decided Brook was the girl but then saw drew in pink....

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StrictlyKatty · 23/11/2009 10:03

Yeah I just read up and discovered it had already been concluded

Well I guess I did assume wrong, I've personally never heard the names used the other way around before but maybe there is a new trend I'm not up to date with.

I went to Primary school with an Alexis who was a boy, so all my life I have assumed Alexis was a boys name as the first and pretty much only time I've come across it it was a boys name. Only when I saw him a again recently did he say how he HATES his names as it's apparently a girls name(something about Dynasty...)

He was shockingly bitter about it, has changed his name to 'Lex' as he thinks that it very male and gets very upset when people say Alexis. He is very angry with his parents as he sais he was bullied a lot for it at secondary school

So maybe in the long run it might actually be a big deal, I couldn't possibly know and I hope not, but it could.

pooexplosions · 23/11/2009 10:14

I just loe the mumsnet double standard here... its fine to be nasty about names of strangers (there is an entire area for same under baby names on here), to say hat you think of names and images they conjure up...but if mrscroc does it you get to shout bitch at her and orse.

Get a grip lads this is AIBU, not netmums, one doesn't hae to be pleasant and smiley all the time. Take the stick out of your arses and say sorry to mrscroc......

mrscrocoduck · 23/11/2009 14:13

Thanks for the biscuit x

That was nice. Come on everyone, if you can't be a little brazen on an anonymous forum where can you be? I am surprised at my brother and I can see it would look snobby but I'm a little surprised by the self-satisfied condemnation I'm receiving here!

I agree StirctlyKAtty, it may be a problem for Brook - I don't think I've ever heard it for a boy before. Although 'Drew' obviously has Drew Barrymore to heighten its profile and isn't really at all unusual. I hope it isn't a problem for him growing up though.

I think the thought that a teacher judges and condemns children the instant they read their names on the register is pandering to parents' insecurities. There's nothing nicer than a child giving you a positive association with their name if you previously thought kids with it were a problem. And that does happen. But to believe that a teacher would scupper a child's success because they don't like their name is so laughable I can't even comment on it.

Thanks pooexplosions... nice someone could see through my glib remarks

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mrscrocoduck · 23/11/2009 14:16

'I am defensive because I have a 'bimbo' stereotype name (give you a clue - it's not Margaret) and from a poor background yet was a straight A student, first class degree postgrad quals etc etc. But I don't think that would have happened if all my teachers were like MrsCroc and ItchyandScratchy.'

How right you are. We would have had you cleaning out the stationary cupboard while your plain jane, yet comfortably-off, counterparts were given answers to all the tests.

What a lucky escape.

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mrscrocoduck · 23/11/2009 14:22

And despite no longer being close to each other I can see that my brother is a wonderful and loving person. I just wanted to say that. My feelings about his name choices have nothing to do with our drifting apart.

One last update - the middle names are in...

Drew Promise (girl)

Brook Wynn (boy)

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renaldo · 23/11/2009 14:23

a a mother of twins I have to say...
shit choice

mrscrocoduck · 23/11/2009 14:26

Brook Wynn - a little too resonant of Brooklyn?! My brother does keep chuntering on about how his wife looks like posh spice (I think she's prettier - his wife that is).

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PeedOffWithNits · 23/11/2009 14:29

Brook Wynn??

poor kid, everyone will think he (or is it she, I got lost!) is saying his name is brooklyn and mispronouncing it!!

PeedOffWithNits · 23/11/2009 14:30

OP - if you think those names are bad, see thread in news about woman with 14 kids and planning more. they really do have odd names

brandonsflower · 23/11/2009 14:42

I really hope the article about teachers plucking troublemakers out before even meeting them is untrue.

My DD has a name which I thought was lovely when I registered her. However it is always pronounced wrong, she is named after a place in France, yet called the name of a mimer singer.

She has been a bit about her name for a while now, and asking to use her middle name ( which is on the 'good' list in that article)
After reading it, I think I may well just let her- she starts secondary school next year, and is so quiet and polite ( not biased, she really is!) I hate the thought of her being judged and discarded before even starting school!

brandonsflower · 23/11/2009 14:44

YANBU to have not been able to tell which twin is which, I would have guessed the other way round!
Sorry this was meant to be on 1st message- went off on a rant!

RustyBear · 23/11/2009 15:52

DD has a name (Amber) which I have seen denounced as 'chavvy' on MN baby name threads - she's currently at a top university, so I don't think her name has disadvantaged her with teachers.

In fact the only 'judginess' I've come across was from a mum who wanted to invite DD to play, who when she met me for the first time said 'You don't seem like the mother of an Amber....'

CheerfulYank · 23/11/2009 16:03

I thought it was always "Brooks" for a boy. Brooke to me is a girl's name.

pixiestix · 23/11/2009 16:07

Bloody awful names, MrsCroc, and I don't think you deserve the flaming you've received on here.

And to all the posters using the word "gender" when they mean "sex" YABVU and driving me fucking mad!!

georgiemum · 23/11/2009 16:10

Drew is deffo a boys name - as in short for Andrew (well, it is in scotland anyway).

lockets · 23/11/2009 16:26

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Avendesora · 23/11/2009 16:54

o no, DrewP (Drewpey) in the playground for the next 15 years then! I too feel your pain

mrscrocoduck · 23/11/2009 17:17

lockets - good point!!!

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MrsGuyofGisbourne · 23/11/2009 17:56

Mrs C - YANBU - but I ama probably the worst ever judge of gender, having a taught a little Italian boy for a few weeks, thought he was a bit effeminate, wore jewellery and had a girl's name - well - turns out he WAS a girl Just call me Nursie from Blackadder...

mrscrocoduck · 23/11/2009 18:36

DREW-P... well at least that's not the boy. Oh God.

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SunChaser · 23/11/2009 18:47

OP I agree with you - your brother has given his kids chavvy and horrible names. Let's be judgmental together.

cumbria81 · 23/11/2009 18:50

brandonsflower - is your DD's name Brest?

LynetteScavo · 24/11/2009 22:53

DH says together they sound like Buckaroo.

JodieO · 24/11/2009 23:09

By Narketta Sun 22-Nov-09 16:46:03
OP if you were my sister I would be glad that we didn't live near or have alot to do with you.

You have the nerve to call your brother a chav because you dislike the names he and his partner have chosen for there newborns.

I'd rather be a chav than a stuck up bitch any day!

Couldn't agree more. Let's hope noone thinks the children of the people on this thread have stupid, chavvy, boring etc etc etc names then too. No wonder so many children get bullied going on the shit I've read here.

I wonder if any would say the same to their faces? Not have the courage of your convictions? What a surprise...

pooexplosions · 24/11/2009 23:18

get a grip Jodie, and climb back in your box

you must be perfection personified, you should pop oer to netmums for some nice hugs and pats on the back for not eer being sarcastic, lighthearted or catty.

And I bet you ouldn't call mrscroc a bitch to her face either. I on the other hand oud hae no bother saying hat I think to yours.....

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