to be totally bored hearing this same old trite trotted out

[curryfreak]

Get this all the time from parents of boys.
How difficult they are, how much more of a handful they can be in relation to girls, how much they eat in comparision to girls ffs,- who cares.
The one though, that has been in vogue for a while,(courtesy of daily mail headlines and the like) is how terrible boys are faring in the education system, and how these dreadful female teachers are feminising the poor little mites,- how they have no male role models, because there are so few male teachers (particularly in primary schools)
Yawn yawn yawn...
Simple facts are girls have been on the backfoot for years. Nobody gave a toss, when they were lagging behind educationally, and in some cases activly discourgaed from taking subjects which were considered male dominated.
Boys are having to wake up to the fact that their sense of entitlement is no longer acceptable.
So, thoughts.

I'm talking about the fact that historically it was deemed acceptable to be unconcerned about girls being given a fair crack of the whip, but now that boys are deemed to be struggling, suddenly there's a big crisis,- wtf!
Interestingly, boys tend to win out in the end,as they tend to do better in high school(particularly the latter years)As we all know, Men tend to earn more than women, get promoted over tham, and are not discriminated against in a myriad of ways (mostly for having babies), so they never actually suffer!

I have a boy and everyone has gone on about how girls are much harder work. My DS is fab and I wouldn't change him for the world.

I don't like your OP.

I was all for feminism until I reached my age and realised I may be a mummy and I may want to stay at home and raise my beautiful boy and rest while I'm pregnant and actually get on top of my housework but instead I need to work my arse off to provide for my family as DH's wage isn't quite enough.

That's when feminism bites you in the arse.

look biscuitbrains,you cannot redress a wrong by heaping upon someone else esp not wee children

Also, I earn much more than DH. 4 times his wage infact. I've had more opportunities than him. And I have a fanjo.

@ cory

And scottishmummy is so wise; if she wasn't Scottish, I'd wonder if she was my mum!

So, life is all a competition between the sexes is it curryfreak? And one that can be won by us wimmmmin being mean to little boys? Hmmm?!

YABU and are totally wrong ime and imo.

Curryfreak, quick tip - for your next post, you might want to put something like:

"Yep, you're all totally right, I am an ignorant twerp and really didn't think this through. Sorry. I had the pink mist."

(it's like the red mist, but for mothers of girls who say stupid things about boys, geddit?)

i love boys.i love girls.i love their differences and similarities.

i dont care for your post curryhead but presumably you are hoping to be contentious

YABU and in danger of falling prey to 'competing victim syndrome.'

Well i started off nodding in agreement but then you went a bit barking.

I'd just like to point out that there is still a massive discrepancy in what men and women earn and it isn't showing much sign of equalising - despite legislation.

However, I do think that some aspects of school tend to suit girls better than boys, but as someone else has mentioned this tends to change later on in the education system, with boys doing better in uni.

It would be interesting to fully know why it is that when it comes to careers men still totally overshadow women. It can't just be child-bearing. I have a half-baked theory about self-confidence, testerone and the ability to "blag" your way into and through a job, but this could be sour-grapes from being overlooked for promotions.

Oops testosterone!

yep sounds like sour grapes to me

OMG this reminds me of a very long post I started about a year ago about how the education system is failing boys due to female-centric curriculum swing over the last 20 years (which c'mon is fairly evident). My son is in year 6 - his life saver teacher is the only male teacher in the school and has thoroughly inspired my son into the world of DT. Better than all the women teachers he has had who just want them to write neatly,do colouring in and stay still in the classroom 'like the girls'.

in medicine and law at undergrad the majority of students are female.women are attaining uni places and more 2:1 then males

but many male career choices pay more than female dominated ones. a construction project manager earns more than nurse

Oh dear! seemed to have touched a nerve. I have four nephews who I love dearly. I am not and have never been mean to little boys,- but I am frankly sick to death of the endless whinging from some parents of boys, about how much more difficult their lot is because they have boys.

It's not more difficult, - it's just different! My two dd's are completly different in charachter to each other, and are an absoloute handful, no more or less than my dbi's two boys.
I would have been happy to have children of either sex!
I still think boys do more than fine by the time they reach secondary school, certainly by the time they enter further education,- so a few years, where things may not be particularly cushy for them is no real hardship surely?

No, boys start failing at primary and the trend just gets worse at secondary. There is a real issue with this in education today which needs to be addressed.

Oh fgs. As a proud feminist, get the hell out of my belief system. You're making us all look like loons. Please troll elsewhere. This is neither big nor clever and sets feminism back, because it stops women being willing to identify as one.

Human beings ALL deserve the opportunity to reach their fullest potential, irrespective of inherent biological traits that have nothing to do with intelligence, decency or worth. Wanting to oppress as retribution for historic oppression is particularly nauseating on a day when the media have made it all too plain that our own oppression is NOT historic. The sexist claptrap after Brown & Cameron visited us should have spelled that out in neon.

I don't want my son to benefit from the oppression of anyone else, but nor do I want him oppressed. Is that simple enough? Or shoudl I type more slowly?

Totallyandutterlied I just had to add to your comment re feminism because it pained me a little. you are describing an attitude such as that of the 1980s in the Thatcherite years when many misinterprested feminism to be about being the same as men and doing it better. (crap description but I am knackered).

To me true feminism is about redressing balance and allowing choice. The choice for men and women to be given a fair chance to achieve what they want, be it raising children in the home or fulfilling career ambitions. It is a utopian concept that we all still need to work towards.

That is why the OP is so wrong. Her post asks that because women have suffered boys should now experience some portion of suffering. But attacking people trying to redress primary education will not crack that glass ceiling. It just perpetuates negative competition between the sexes.

You haven't touched a nerve, you're just talking tosh.

you touched a nerve because you asked a deliberately provocative question

bit like me askin

"why do some women irrationally deridewee boys and blame them for the the inequities heaped upon women"

over-emotional, irrational opinion on both sides. Pointless.

For me it isn't a matter of what is best for girls OR boys. Teachers of both sexes, an appreciation of different learning styles and personalities, a varied curriculum, a balance between traditional and unconventional teaching methods, lots of hands-on experience with extra support for those who are shy or struggling - isn't that going to benefit everybody, male and female?

as they get older, boys and girls are going to be spending a fair chunk of their classroom time obsessing about each other, anyway

I thought women did better or equally well at uni