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to think Octomum is bloody amazing!

104 replies

BigMomma3 · 12/11/2009 22:06

I thought she came over so well in the C4 prog. Her kids are healthy and beautiful. The nasty stuff bandied round about her is disgusting.

I have completely changed my attitude since watching the programme. AIBU!

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electra · 13/11/2009 22:02

I think she's lovely

liger · 13/11/2009 22:03

Did anyone else notice how all of the clips of bizarre venomous stuff being poured at her via the internet seemed to come from men?

I was surprised that middle aged men were so motivated by a woman having children that they felt the need to post disturbing video's on youtube.

It follows on from your thoughts Shiney. They seemed to just have hatred for her rather than any concern for the children's future.

Oblomov · 13/11/2009 22:10

the duggans planned their family. having children regularly very soon after eachother.
But to have 8. At any one time. after already having 6.

Dh is one of 6. 4 years between all of them.

He watched the programme aswell. He thought it was 'freakish'.

Booyhoo · 13/11/2009 22:30

Fourarms yes its in the UK.

liger i noticed taht it was all men too. i dont understand that. why did they hate her so much?

leeloo1 · 13/11/2009 22:33

Mmmmm... big families used to be the norm, but surely that was largely to do with lack of contraception and high infant mortality rates?

I felt the Octomum woman seemed sweet with the little ones in the show, but the older ones did seem neglected (and traumatised by being fimed) - BUT - in the previous show about her she just seemed desperate for publicity and (from recollection) was complaining about why Jon and Kate got more publicity than her.

Ronaldinhio · 13/11/2009 22:34

octomum

is she a superhero?

should be withthat name

scottishmummy · 14/11/2009 01:26

if she were here in uk,what would opinion be

good on her
irresponsible

sarah293 · 14/11/2009 06:29

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hatwoman · 14/11/2009 09:12

good points shiney and liger. and while she has staff, in the sense shiney was talking about she is going it alone - ie without a male partner. don't know anything about the duggars but they sound worse - planning such a mad scenario rather than coming to it accidentally through slightly odd decisions. also agree re the "normal" upbringing. shudder at the thought that the state should intervene in order to give children "normal" upbringings. the state's job is to intervene when there is abuse. and whilst these kids may well grown up with some serious difficulties there wasn't anything on that program that was worse than stuff I've seen on lots of other childcare-type programs.

Shineynewthings · 14/11/2009 09:50

Here's the link to the program.

I agree with Riven and Hatwoman etc, deserves a break.

wannaBe · 14/11/2009 10:27

"she's not going it alone, she has staff." oh that's alright then.

I think that continually having children you cannot care for is incredibly selfish and irresponsible. This woman was already living off the state before she had these babies. She already had six children, one of whom has sn, wtf did she need more children for?

Children are not a right or an entitlement. This notion that someone should have as many children as they want makes me quite now she has fourteen and they are nothing more than commodities because that's the only way she will be able to care for them.

She said herself that she finds it hard to bond with babies and doesn't understand how other people bond with small babies, yet she carries on having more.

Yes, I think the babies should have been taken into care.

years ago severely disabled children were paraded around as some kind of freak show. No-one now would condone that happening, even if it meant it was the only way that the mother could care for the child. this is no different and should not be condoned either.

And fwiw I think the same of anyone who uses their children as commodities, The duggers, John and Kate, Katie price...

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madamearcati · 14/11/2009 14:44

She didn't choose to have octuplets did she.I think she is doing the best anyone could under the ncircumstances

pigletmania · 14/11/2009 15:49

I am watching this and think that Nadia made the wrong decision and is very self centred. She is basically exploiting the kids so that they can be provided for, that means opening up her life and home for the media. Nadia did not think about the impact to her other children that this would have. I know that she just planned to have one or two more, imo she should never have thought about having more. Her oldest Elijah is a ver private boy who preferres quiet, since this his behaviour seems to have got worse. Yes she is managing very well at the moment, and can only with paid help, without it she admitted that could not and the children would probably have to go into state care.

The doctor must have told her how many embryos he was implanting, did she not say hey no thats way to many! No she is not soley responsible but shares part responsibility with the doctor.

pigletmania · 14/11/2009 15:50

Her kids are beautiful though and what is done is done so he ho.

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pigletmania · 14/11/2009 16:09

i would be a frazzled gibbering wreck going me me me [puts index finder on lips and moves it up and down] lol. I dont agree with all the hate stuff on the net and going round about her, that is not on. I dont agree with what she did and think that she was selfish and did not think about the consequences, but would not hate that is a strong word.

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pigletmania · 14/11/2009 16:18

I know just typed in octomum into the net and got some horrible images

Booyhoo · 14/11/2009 16:20

hatwoman, why should she have a male partner?

would that make the whole situation ok?

she has staff and friends, they are her support system. i know lots of families where there are two parents, a man and a woman and the dad works full time, and spends weekends at the pub/ working on a car/ golfing/ at a football match. are these families better off for the fact that there is a male parent?

she has set in place a system whereby there are staff who can be relied upon to be there daily, arent dependant on her to provide for their emotional well being, know their job/role within the house and they do it.

hatwoman · 14/11/2009 17:22

booyhoo I didn;t say she should have a partner/male - not sure why you thought I was. shiney made the good point that people resent women who go it alone. MZ said she wasn;t going it alone (because she had staff) I just said that in the sense shiney meant it, she was going it alone. and I was agreeing with shiney's main point.

hatwoman · 14/11/2009 17:28

booyhoo - just re-read your post - and see that your point was more directed at my use of male. I think that in the (rather simplistic) minds of people who resent women who "go it alone" what they do really have in their minds is "without a man". I didn;t mean to imply that in my mind "going it alone" = without a male partner. iyswim.

Booyhoo · 14/11/2009 17:31

apologies hatwoman, i think i have misunderstood your post. it was this line,
"she is going it alone- ie; without a male partner"

the point i was making was that a partner didnt have to be male to be valid nor a romantic partner.

Booyhoo · 14/11/2009 17:32

xpost hatwoman

Booyhoo · 14/11/2009 17:34

i see now that this isnt your opinion, but you were saying that this is why she gets stick from people.