to actually consider a psychic to sort out my daughter's sudden fear of her room..

[brightongirldownunder]

OK, I know I'm being a prat, but I'm at my wits end with this situation. Over the past 4 days DD refuses to sleep in her bedroom. She lies there with scared, wide eyes and tells me the windows have been rattling. It freaked me out too...
She'll happily play with her toys in there but as soon as she has to get into bed to lie down, she starts screaming.
She's 2.5 yrs old, with an extremely vivid imagination, but she normally loves her sleep and her bed.
Gaahhhh....I'm knackered.............

I'm usually very down-to-earth but there was definitely something wrong with the room I slept in in my teens. There were nights when I'd spend the whole night awake with the light on feeling too scared to close my eyes. Funny thing is, it used to be my brother's room, and we never talked about this, then one day long after my family had moved out we got chatting and it turns out he'd felt the same way.

The previous occupant had apparently been a highly depressed/suicidal teen so I always wondered if it was something about absorbed "energy" or more to it... Have never ever felt that way in a space since then (or previous to living there).

hope she's getting over it...

When I was about 2.5 I was frightened of the family bathroom.........

because I was convinced there were scary, noisy but invisable horses in there

I soon learnt this wasnt the case

But I was genuinely terrified at the time

Just popped back to see how it had gone Brighton - come to any decisions yet ?

TheBlairSnitchProject - how weird but like you say could well be as he's less bunged up but hey as long as he slept through the night that's the most important thing. !!!

Oh and mrsmhaAARRrrket - intriguing, I'll keep watching (whilst waiting for Tesco's to arrive)

Ok update time....
As I mentioned before, I drew some smiley faces of her friends and stuck them on the windows to make them happy windows. Last night it actually worked as DD said the scary ones had gone away. I also played some classical music in the background to keep everything calm.
I still had to stroke her hair until she fell asleep but she then slept for 12 hours.
I think it could have been a combination of the wind rattling the windows (now secure) and a very bad nightmare. She's a real one for night terrors.
We've played in every corner of her room and she says she loves each bit, so fingers crossed....
We are going to magic spray the room together tonight too. Like a lot of you are saying, I think it has to be done together for DD to appreciate what's happening.
(oh, and I did have a little word with whoever may have been in there whilst she was out, just for safe keeping )

Well done Im pleased for you

i'm pleased for you brighton
dd had mentioned that the children kept her awake so i said that she had to say that she was going to sleep and she couldn't play. she tried this but you know what children are like when they want to play. so i had a chat jsut before dd went to sleep and i said "look, she has asked you politely now i am asking/telling you politely, dd has to go to bed to sleep now - she ahs school in the morning, so she needs her sleep. i will leave some toys out for you downstairs that you can play with if you would like to" and left it at that. sometimes when i read dd a bedtiem story, it feels like there are a couple more chidlren in the room than just dd. the energy levels of children are 'younger' than adults and so i could tell the room felt different.

fwiw i have also seen the spirits of a young girl about 8 and the spirit of a young boy, about dd's age. i saw them out the corner of my eye and looked properly cos i thought dd had come upstairs quietly to make me jump but then they disappeared - you know when you get a feeling from other people (without them saying anything) that they are shy? it was exactly like that.

I think that's quite lovely. Do you feel comfortable with it or does it freak you out? I've thought I've seen an old man in the window of the back bedroom whilst I was in the garden (kind of out the corner of my eye - like you said).

Weirdest thing was that I was freaked out by it - he was smiling and it was almost like feeling protected.

it can be scary sometimes even after all you've experienced, can't it?! i still findit a bit scary soemtimes and call on everyone i can think of in heaven to protect me and my daughter.

there was a lovely atmosphere by my front door one day and it felt like an angel was standing there it was a relaly lovely experience

It happened again last night. Her eyes were focussed on something behind me and she refused to let me leave the room.When I finally did (after an hour) she screamed and threw herself out of her cot. Luckily I've bought her a bed now so there'll be no more of that, but its horrible to see her like that. She loves her sleep so much and is normally so good at getting herself off at night.
I suppose I'll have to keep focussing on the fact that she'll grow out of this - hope its soon, I'm exhausted...

you are not a pratt brighton - your lo is sensing something

my mum had my bedroom exercised(sp) by local vicar nearly 40years ago

my brother slept in there before me (hes 3yrs older) and had bad dreams, screaming/bad nights etc

mum arranged for vicar to come and read rites, he also sprinkled some blessed water and a left a necklace with a cross there

he said there was a dead spirit there (a man died in that bedroom) and was unhappy and the vicar released him

brother then slept peacefully - i then was born, brother went into bigger bedroom and slept peacefully and i went into his old room

i always slept well

i never knew this,till i was about 12 and found the cross on top of my wardrobe and removed it

my mum freaked and told me never to take out of room again

who knows what or why my brother didnt sleep,but seems very strange that he was peaceful in other room and i slept well after the room was cleansed

hope things improve - agree dont pay a medium but def worth talking to your church

I do not believe in ghosts BUT I have seen ghosts twice, which my scientific head finds hard to make sense of. I can also pick up vibes in houses and have a sense of what went on there before. Freaky.

Can I suggest a mother and child cleansing ritual a la Feng Shui (this is based on one in one of Sarah Surety's books). Good headology, as Terry Pratchett might say.

1. Spring clean room together. Switch off electricals, open a window.
2. Shower and change clothes.
3. Protect yourself by working out if you feel fearful, or able to do the cleansing. If you are fearful then get a friend to help you. Or imagine yourself protected by a bright impregnable bubble of light.
4. Light a white candle and a stick of incense in the room. Ask for guidance in carryng out the cleansing.
5. Mentally ask permission to cleanse room.
6. Put some white, red and yellow flowers near the candle.
7. Now using a high pitched bell or triangle or something, make a single dinging noise in each corner of the room while thinking happy thoughts.
8. Wash your hands and forearms and thank the universe for helping you.
9. Now walk around each part of the room in sequence imagining it is blessed and safe.

10. Clear up by pouring water from the flowers on the earth outside the house, and wrapping the flowers in tissue paper and disposing of them where nobody will touch them. 11. Imagine the room shielded by imagining a metal garage door of the roller type pulling itself down around the room. 12. Within six hours, bathe in warm water with a mug of salt for at least 10 minutes. Then have a cool shower, as cool as you can bear.

Even if this is rubbush you will feel like you are doing something and hopefully changing the way you oth feel about the room.

Look at my post on this thread

undoubtedly your daughter reacted to something with a rational reasonable explanation

the cognition and way children articulate and conceptualise is different from adults

talk of spirits,rituals,things we don't understand is gobble dee gook.trying to explain rational with irrational

noise
olfactory
thoughts/memories
all likely to be responsible

dont hand over money to any quack claiming to "solve" this for you

Or, you could actually look at it as a normal phase of childhood before you say "ooo she was sensing something"

The night before, she had her mum there stroking her hair, she fell asleep - lovely

the next night, mum tries to leave the room instead

Cue screams/throwing out of the cot. Children do this all over the world, every single night. It's behavioural.

Also - children's frontal lobes aren't properly developed until the age of 6 or something. Frontal lobes control imagination. This is why they get obsessed about scary monsters etc.

There's no such thing as ghosts!

Sorry, seen one.

They do exist. And I didn't believe till then.

My friend thinks that my cynicism is so strong that it actually acts as ghost repellant (he believes).

All my life I have lived in old houses, worked in old buildings and went to an old school. Not so much as a whiff of ectoplasm in sight. Maybe he has a point.

battery operated toys start sometimes when the batteries are low.

I don't believe that ghosts do exist. I used to be relatively open minded if skeptical about that particular subject but I think it's complete waffle now.

My mother has seen ghosts too,and a few other things and they looked and sounded very real to her at the time though she knows it didn't really happen, but she has temporal lobe epilepsy which can induce hallucinations.

The brain, even in those without epilepsy,can induce very vivid hallucinations as it often does in those who have had near death experiences and believe that they saw a bright light and people waiting for them.

LetThereBeRock, I think I assume it's something like that as well, hence a bit of headology settling it all down.

I do think we are programmed to be fearful for irrational reasons sometimes (for example I refuse to go on roller coasters) and this need not be a bad thing if it is not too limiting socially.

Problem is I've always had a very overactive imagination and still see things that aren't really there. Its beginning to make mine worse and last night I couldn't sleep at all because I swear I kept feeling something cold next to me or hearing strange noises. I really believe this is a nice house and am sure that between DD and myself this has got out of control. Now I really do sound like a prat now...

there are ghosts

i saw one in my parents house when i was 18

i woke to find an old man sitting on my friends bed who was staying

she also saw it,but thought it was me sitting on her bed

found out in morning that my grandad died that night ..........

i think he came to say goodbye

there is also something in my works house - i saw a man in a black suit standing by door - woofa growled

and 2 of my friends have babysat in works house and sense there is something

though a friendly spirit - mb/db havent sensed anything

I don't do rollercoasters either Boff. I don't consider that to be irrational though.They're scary.They're high up and they aren't much fun imho.

boffy - you dont beleive yet you have seen?