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to be feeling utterly exhausted by DD2 and her list of complaints?

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EccentricaGallumbats · 15/10/2009 08:54

This morning

I'm tired
The toothpaste is too minty
My toothbrush has scratched my gums
I feel sick
My foot hurts
I hate PE
I feel sick
I can't do PE my foot hurts
I can't find my planner
I feel sick
I hate XXXX
My foot hurts
I can't do PE my foot hurts
I'm tired
My toast is too cooked
I feel sick
XXXX is horrble
I hate my french teacher
My foot hurts
I feel sick
I can't find my blaizer
It's cold
I'm tired
I feel sick
I hate school
I hate french
I hate science
I hate PE
I hate xxx
I hate you
I feel sick

etc etc etc etc etc etc etc

Her foot hurts beause she was stamping around in a temper on monday. since then she has been out riding her bike, walking, running, dancein etc so not really hurt.
Her bag, breakfast, planner, school books and blaiser were in their usual places
I had the heating on so it wasn't cold.
If she went to sleep a bit earlier she wouldn't be so tired.
If she stopped bloody complaining about everything all the bloody time she might realise that her life isn't that bad after all.

I ignore all the above, and have been doing so for years and years.
I acknowlege her moans, I sometimes agree with her. I witter on inanely to try and distract her. I don't give in and let her stay in bed and never have.

What the bloody hell do I do with her?

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MusterMix · 15/10/2009 11:16

my tips are

  1. stop listening
  1. read how to talk book( the teen one is cae)
  2. say oh yes and uh huh a lot
  3. agrree with her

that will utterly FREAK her

MusterMix · 15/10/2009 11:16

and how dare she say she hates you
id go BALIISTIC if my kids said that to me.

diddl · 15/10/2009 11:18

If she´s 11, Eccectrica, can´t you leave her to get herself ready for school?

claricebeansmum · 15/10/2009 11:27

I'm like scaryteacher - I insist nag on prior preparation so there is no stalling in the morning. I am the mean mum who lets their child turn up at school without the sports bag left in the hall...

And I throw things back to them...so when there is a whinge about what's for dinner I ask them if they would like to shop and cook for dinner the next evening..."errrr....no".

Feeling ill - unless you have vomited at my feet or your arm is hanging off then into school you go and if you feel worse go to see the nurse.

Also the rule is if you have dirty laundry you need to put it in the laundry basket. I will happily launder and iron. But if DS comes moaning that he hasn't any clean shirts I direct him to the pile under his desk...(why would you put your school shirt under your desk?

I do not have the patience of a saint.

scaryteacher · 15/10/2009 12:09

Sounds like we are very alike CBM. I only take stuff in to school if it's convenient, otherwise he takes the consequences of forgetting.

claricebeansmum · 15/10/2009 12:27

I get quite annoyed with other mothers who complain about having to drive into school with forgotten sports kit etc why do these parents pander to their DC?

Actually, having re-read OP I am afraid my repsonse would be

"If you can't say anything nice then don't say anything at all" or

"If you are ill then back to bed, no TV, no iPod, just lie there and get better"

In response to "My toothbrush has scratched my gums" "Well I'd better clean your teeth for you from now on as you seem incapable"

sugardumpling · 15/10/2009 12:29

this sounds like a typical morning at our house

BrokkenHarted · 15/10/2009 12:31

hahaha, what a giggle reading this thread!

Is this what i am in for? oh dear.....

HarrumphingAndBosomAdjusting · 15/10/2009 12:39

OhGodOhGodOhGod...my DD is four months old, and the more I Mumsnet the more horrors appear to be looming ahead of me. Toddler years, school, teenage strops and now incessant whingeing.
Doubtless I'll face it all with zen-like calm and a stoic smile

slimeoncrazydemon · 15/10/2009 12:43

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Doodleydoo · 15/10/2009 12:44

Can I suggest that in the future we all just whinge back at them. Am loving the ad where the mother has the tantrum to preempt the child in the supermarket - dd threw herself on the floor (thankfully no longer hitting head on the way down) so i did it too, to her credit she got up and walked out of the room with a rather superior look on her face - something i tend to do (minus the superior look!)

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Pyrocanthus · 15/10/2009 12:48

Harrumph - I've found no stage of my children's lives so far as hard as the little baby stage, so you might find it's a doddle.

scaryteacher · 15/10/2009 13:13

But at least they don't talk at that point Pyro - I mentioned this to ds the other day who looked horrified at the thought he hadn't always talked. I pointed out he had always been extremely vocal!

Pyrocanthus · 15/10/2009 13:17

Good point, but I used to hate not being sure what they were whingeing about.

By a stunning coincidence - I've just received an e-mail from DD1's school advertising 1-day workshops and a 6-week course in 'Handling Teenage Behaviour'. I'm hoping they've not just sent it to me.

Anyone want me to book them a place?

Countingthegreyhairs · 15/10/2009 13:36

I'm really interested in this thread

My 6yr old can be exactly like this on bad mornings:

why does my tummy hurt?
I bet xxx won't play with me today
why can't I take such and such to school? (a toy or a plastic necklace or an item that is against the rules) and she then proceeds to makes a really huge fuss about it
I don't like xxx for breakfast etc
My tummy hurts

(although she loves school and when she couldn't go one day last week she was very annoyed)

but she is a bit Jekyll and Hyde

On good mornings she is singing "operatic" arias at the top of her voice or (like this morning) chasing her father around the dining room table with a feather duster...

Both can be quite draining tbh!!

But I'm quite Jekyll and Hyde too I suppose -both in my own behaviour and in the way I respond to hers

I veer between ClariceBeansmum's approach -her post had me cheering in parts, particularly about sports kit (how will dc learn otherwise?)

and then I remember how miserable I felt as a child (the general lack of control over your own life, having to abide by everyone else's rules, having to be in a "group" setting the whole time) and I try (not very effectively) to engage in the "How to talk approach?" because I DO srongly believe it is important to acknowledge how dc are feeling -they don't have the ability themselves to recognise or identify why they are feeling bad (it's usually anxiety at the base of it) or express it effectively

I often feel grumpy in the morning or foul-tempered when I get home from work but I can "soothe" myself (usually with wine ) or chatting to someone

Thinking about it, I think (ideally!) dc need a mixture of both approaches - strong boundaries (like ClariceBean's) combined with an open ear which allows them to express their anxieties

I realise the above is not at all helpful Eccentrica and as is evident, am no expert myself, but I think in your shoes I would be trying to give your dd another more productive way of expressing herself ...

ie could she have a daily 'log' that helps her to express her emotions - she might just draw facial expressions depicting happy, angry, sad and perhaps write or draw a line as to why that is the case

(at the very least you would have a record for your meeting with a psychologist and it might identify a pattern - ie she is always particularly anxious on Thursday mornings when it's swimming ...or somethign)

It might also provide you - in material form - with a basis from which you can both have a calm discussion at other times of the day when the flashpoints have subsided (ie a quiet talk before bed)

Or she could have a "special box" full of things that she finds calming and soothing which she can look at or do, when she is whinging (ie sew a patchwork square each time she feels nervous or have a photo in there depicting an event she was dreading which she went on to enjoy)

Or have a special "quiet cushion" in your house next to a CD player where she can go and listen to a favourite song when she is feeling stressed

Or a special pet she can stroke

Or perhaps you could encourage her to really focus and put energy in to an area of her life where she does feel confident and she does have a degree of control (so she can feel strong and effective me) and where she can make things happen, instead of having things happen to her ...(could she organise a fund-raising event, or a little play, or something similar she enjoys?)

I dunno!!

She might be depressed (attributable to chemical imbalances) in which case the earlier she develops coping strategies, the better.

It's interesting that she is "bright and happy" when she is being assessed. Is that because she feels she has to be "perfect" when around others or is it because she likes the attention?

I'd take heart from the fact that she feels "safe" enough with you to whinge and complain, deeply wearing though it must be!! It means she trusts you and is secure enough in your love to test it!!

(Takes off amateur psychologist pince-nez)

I'd be really interested to know how you get on because I reckon I'll be facing the same challenges in a year or so ...good luck with it!!

Countingthegreyhairs · 15/10/2009 13:38

sorry for long rambling essay - half of which states the obvious - not good at being succinct!!

Countingthegreyhairs · 15/10/2009 13:40

MusterMix - I think we all hate our parents at some stage don't we?

Bleh · 15/10/2009 14:04

Give her something to REALLY complain about. Send her to India to work in a clothing factory with other small children.

[heartless meanie emoticon].

I have a feeling my DM used to respond with that (the if you don't stop, I'll give you something to really complain about, not sending me to work in factories).

MusterMix · 15/10/2009 14:30

they might do but they dont need to say

Countingthegreyhairs · 15/10/2009 15:17

Well I wouldn't be happy if she said it to me but I wouldn't be angry either, because I'm not sure she has a good understanding of what it means

I'd probably say something back like "I can understand that you don't like me this minute, but I love you and I'm doing this because x y or z " or something

but I agree important to get across the fact that it hurts to hear them say it (but not in a martyrish sort of way if that makes sense)

Depends on age of dc too ..

EccentricaGallumbats · 15/10/2009 15:31

see all those suggestions up there? tried most of them. regularly and consistantly. they don't work for her. nothing does. nothing at all. so i continue to ignore and agree. it is just utterly exhausting.

she is being assessed for AS of one sort or another and is going to have some CBT for the constant feeling sick. i live in hope that it might hel;p a bit.

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sarah293 · 15/10/2009 15:35

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EccentricaGallumbats · 15/10/2009 15:36

oh god yes. someone's stolen it. why? why would anyone want to steal your science book/planner/socks?

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thatsnotmymonster · 15/10/2009 15:45

My 3yo dd is like this too

I quite often just say I won't respond to anything said in a whiney voice. That works.