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AIBU?

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To want to cry at this comment on JK today?

33 replies

BobbingForPeachys · 14/10/2009 11:12

'She wanted to raise my child Christian but I am a Catholic'

(no idea if baby was his or not btw; had to go out)

AIBU to think if someonoe doesn't know that their own religion is Christianity then they probably are a bit dim ? (Clearly what I mean there was somewhat stronger LOL)....... That's before we even get into the wondering why a Catholic would be fathering children randomly....)

Yes I know I was BU to watch JK. But it always makes me feel good about myself- no matter how shit I may be, I at least know who fathered the boys and to keep my dirty washing far away from TV cameras!

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GrimmaTheNome · 14/10/2009 11:19

I think that would elicit a snort rather than tears from me.

GrimmaTheNome · 14/10/2009 11:20

(the was at the twit on JK not you peachy, I hasten to add!)

BobbingForPeachys · 14/10/2009 11:20

(tears of frustration- but I should point out RE was my degree subject which might be why...)

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BloodshotEyeballs · 14/10/2009 11:20

But there are differences. DH is 'Christian' and I am Catholic and there is a lot more mass going and confession in Catholicism...

TrillianSlasher · 14/10/2009 11:20

AIBU to want to cry that you are watching Jeremy Kyle and expecting people to make sense.

There is such a thing as BBC iPlayer - you can watch TV in the daytime without resorting to daytime TV.

BobbingForPeachys · 14/10/2009 11:21

(though not actual tears natch- think I put the TV on pause and made an OMG statement to DH instead)

don't worry grimma I got the - besides, am posting in AIBU,'s away and all that....

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BloodRedTulips · 14/10/2009 11:22

if that was the dimmest thing said on it today then he must have had a relatively bright bunch on compared to his usual guests

BobbingForPeachys · 14/10/2009 11:23

Oh yes BE there is a difference But the difference is between Potestant and catholic surely- nboth fall under Christianity

Iplayer comment acklnowledged, excused I hope by fact DH was working on PC, though I acknowledge judicious use of remote should have bena ctivated

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BloodshotEyeballs · 14/10/2009 11:24

Yes but I don't say I'm Christian, I say I'm Catholic. You don't know how religious they were and if they are particularly religious then there is a big difference.

jeee · 14/10/2009 11:26

I have found that many 'Christians' instantly leave you alone when you say the magic words 'I am a catholic' [disclaimer: I am not a catholic]. This prevents a long attempt to convert you. Saying 'I am C of E' does not have this effect. The loonier born-agains will still attempt to catch you.

iwascyteenagewerewolf · 14/10/2009 11:27

Jeremy Kyle's existence and highly paid career make me cry.

I would differentiate between Christian and Catholic, btw. In that 'Christian' is a catch-all term for those who follow the Christian religion, and 'Catholic' is a rather specialised subset of same.

BobbingForPeachys · 14/10/2009 11:29

Ah BE I should say there was significant emphasis on the importance of the matter to them.

I suppose I am being literal (I do tend towards that) but Ilike corect trerminolgy, and that I guess is Protestantor catholic.

The boarn agains will try to convert anyone, including me (liberal C of W hug - a - sinner variant....),I don't think that'sparticualr tatrgettiing LOl (we haev a fair few at school, and I promise they see me coming0

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gorionine · 14/10/2009 11:30

I do understand the difference you are making iwascyteenagewarewoolf, but it is like saying apples are not fruit they are apples non?

BloodshotEyeballs · 14/10/2009 11:34

...although is it mean to speculate on the devoutness of anyone who appears on JK?

silverfrog · 14/10/2009 11:36

oh, i so get what you mean, Peachy.

my dsd insists that I have a different religion from her - she is a Christian, and in her view, I am not (I am Catholic).

I don't know how many times I have explained to her that we are both Christians, and she is C of E whilst i am Catholic, but it just doesn't sink in

it makes me want to weep with frustration too - she can tell me all sorts of info she has learnt about different world religions due to all-inclusive RE policy at school, but doesn't know the most basic things about her home religions.

Stigaloid · 14/10/2009 11:37

I am a christian but i am not catholic - there is a difference - we may still all believe in Jesus but our prayers and services are vastly different.

Similary Mormons believe in Jesus Christ but their Church is hugely different. Same with Baptists.

scaryteacher · 14/10/2009 11:37

In the RE GCSEs I marked this summer the question asks the students to explain something from a religion other than Christianity. The answer begins,,'Roman Catholics believe that....' If I had a pound for every time I saw that I'd be rich. Nul points for the answer though, which speeds up the marking.

gorionine · 14/10/2009 11:40

Stigaloid, you can definitely be a Christian without being a Catholic but the other way round is not possible.

BadgersPaws · 14/10/2009 11:40

All Catholics are Christian.

Not all Christians are Catholic.

gorionine · 14/10/2009 11:41

Thanks BadgersPaw, your version is clearer than mine!

BobbingForPeachys · 14/10/2009 11:42

I am going to save up that fruit analogy, it's so simple.

Woul IBU to suggest though that if JK said peoplewere in fact Protestants, many of his guests would then deny charging for it?

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iwascyteenagewerewolf · 14/10/2009 11:42

gorionine, generally speaking yes but with reference to bringing up a child in a particular way there is a difference between MOR Christianity and Catholicism, I would think. So JK's guest is not necessarily being stupid to make the distinction in that context, although all things considered he probably was just being a twat.

(Disclaimer: I am not religious in any way and also don't watch Jeremy Kyle )

ImSoNotTelling · 14/10/2009 11:44

Ah but I go to a CofE church which in the service refers to us being members of "the catholic church" and the service is very close to what I was used to when a child as I was brought up RC.

So saying "they are christian I am catholic" is probably even more wrong than at first glance. If what he meant was that he was roman catholic and the other were church of england.

BobbingForPeachys · 14/10/2009 11:45

I guess I did get what Mr Guest meant, but he was being a prat anyhow ('what can I say,i'm a player' er- how about no?) so I felt free to Judge.

It is something I frewuently come across though, and thankfully ST's post shows it is not just me.

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ImSoNotTelling · 14/10/2009 11:46

because if they are cofe they are probably ctaholic as well. just not roman catholic. or something