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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

to expect my mum to cover it up?

68 replies

sunshiney · 20/09/2009 21:23

...her swimming pool that is!

my mum lives in South Africa, we (dh, dd (2) and I) are going to visit her at xmas for a few weeks.
she's lucky enough to have a pool in her garden. when i was booking the holiday, months ago, i asked her if she would be able to put a safety net over her pool. she said she would.

we had a phone call this evening in which she mentioned her pool so i asked if the safety net had been arranged. she now says that a net won't be needed, as she's decided that her garden layout with regard to locked gates is adequate to keep my toddler safe. This is briefly that the back garden, where the pool is, is sectioned off with a gate.

My argument is that members of the household will be using the gate to access the garden, what if they don't close it behind them and my dd slips in unnoticed.
I always know where my dd is, but say for eg one of those situations arose where everyone thinks someone else is watching the child, and then tragically at that time the gate is accidentally left open.

A pool cover costs about £350 to install, and it has to be fixed into the bricks surrounding the pool.
My mum and her husband are very proud of their garden, i'm sure they don't want to spoil the look of their pool for the sake of a christmas visit, i can understand that.

But on the very small chance that my child should come across the pool while she's unattended, a net would save her life.

AIBU therefore to want my mum to take this safety precaution?

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escape · 21/09/2009 08:24

I do understand your worries, but in perspective;
I've lived with an uncovered, unfenced even, pool for the past 5 years with children from 0 to 8. The only 'accident' that has ever occurred was when a cousins toddler fell in, with her father stood beside her!

Yes, you have to have eyes in the back of your head, but it becomes second nature. When you are all outside enjoying the pool, make sure there is never a second when she doesn't have armbands on. Even better, a swim suit with a built in float.

warthog · 21/09/2009 08:24

i can see both sides.

i think she should put a net on, but you should contribute significantly towards it. it's a pain -she's going to have hooks in her paving and storage for the net when it's not on. it's a shame.

otoh, you will want to be able to relax with your 2 yo. BUT even with the pool net you will have to worry about her.

you will have to make sure you know where she is always. not very relaxing, but next holiday will be a lot easier as she'll be older.

that's life with a toddler.

plimple · 21/09/2009 08:25

YABU. My Mum has a massive pond in her garden with no cover. It's really annoying as it means my DD can't play in the garden on her own, but that's all. It will never be a safety issue as she's simply not allowed in the garden on her own. She can't play in the front alone either as there's no gate between the drive and the road. It's a hazard so we take precautions.
There's a gate around the pool, you're aware of the hazard so it's up to you to take precautions.

allaboutme · 21/09/2009 08:27

yanbu
when visiting for 6 weeks it would be nice to be able to go and have a sit down or a shower and leave dd with the others watching her (assuming other family there). i know ultimately its the mums responsibilty but its not much of a holiday if the mum is on red alert and total childcare watch for 24/7 over 6 weeks while everyone else relaxes is it?

If it was me, I'd call your mum and say 'i'm sorry to keep going on about this and i know you think i am overreacting, but the uncovered pool really worries me and i just wont be able to relax and enjoy the break with it uncovered. Would you consider putting in a net or an alarm for my piece of mind please? of course we will pay all costs'

and see whst she says to that..

joolzr · 21/09/2009 09:11

Could you get one of those springs that close gates automatically? That way if anyone forgets to shut it the gate doesn't stay open. Not sure if they have them in the UK but here in NZ all the kindies have them. It's like a fire door.

katiestar · 21/09/2009 10:00

When you go on holiday the pool isn't covered or usually fenced off.You don't expect it to be .You watcgh your children
I think YABU especially as you haven't offered to pay for the net.

Morloth · 21/09/2009 11:19

YABU, you need to watch DD all the time if there is water around, net or no net. We often visit relatives where there are lakes and rivers and access to the ocean on the property let alone pools, we all have little kids and we all watch them.

If you are that worried then don't stay there.

CyradisTheSeer · 21/09/2009 11:25

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MarmadukeScarlet · 21/09/2009 11:40

Most 2 yr olds wouldn't have the presence of mind to not panic and automatically recall floating instructions, being able to free float involves relaxation of muscles which - after being submerged - is unlikely in a child of this age.

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LynetteScavo · 21/09/2009 12:54

So how do you teach that then?

ninedragons · 21/09/2009 13:00

Buy a Turtle alarm.

Attaches to the child's wrist and the base station monitor goes off if the child falls into water. Cheap, easy, portable and you don't have to depend on anyone else to do anything.

OrmIrian · 21/09/2009 13:05

YABU. How could a net be in place all the time anyway if people were using it. Isn't Christmas summer time in SA?

jazzandh · 21/09/2009 13:37

A secondary baby gate across the garden gate could be an option. Would make people remember that there is a small child in vicinity and to shut both gates.

Think a pool net would give a false sense of security at a high cost and if it didn't there wouldn't have been any point in installing it anyway. If you are a very anxious person (as is DH) then you will be anxious regardless of measures in place.

paisleyleaf · 21/09/2009 14:16

"So how do you teach that then?"

You start by having them floating on their back while you hold their head to support them. Gradually pulling you hand away. Singing twinkle star or something relaxing.
Kicking up from under the surface etc
lots of repetitive, simple instructions.

You've got a couple of months to get cracking with water confidence/safety classes. And a great opportunity to use the pool daily for 6 weeks to get your DD happy in the water.
We did swimming classes with DD as we live on a riverbank. So water safety is an issue for us, and you can't put a net over the river.

I don't really see that a net is any safer than a locked gate.....in fact the idea of falling in a pool with a cover on it gives me the horrors......but perhaps I've seen too many incidents like that in films.

Wearing a little lifejacket in that area of the garden is a good idea.

LynetteScavo · 21/09/2009 14:43

I'm so cross at not knowing that before!

Once a baby has learned that, they could tehn just learn to swim really easily.

And here I am spening a small fortune on swimming lessons. Come to think of it, why dont' swimming teachers teach that? what is all this going up and down with floats on about then?

LynetteScavo · 21/09/2009 14:43

I'm so cross at not knowing that before!

Once a baby has learned that, they could tehn just learn to swim really easily.

And here I am spening a small fortune on swimming lessons. Come to think of it, why dont' swimming teachers teach that? what is all this going up and down with floats on about then?

MarmadukeScarlet · 21/09/2009 17:14

I'm not wrong, if you look I wrote MOST not 'no 2 yr old'.

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