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to buy all of my female relatives copies of "Bad Science" for Christmas?

351 replies

AvrilH · 19/09/2009 13:13

I am sick and tired of them wittering on about the importance of "superfood", omega 3, manuka honey, homeopathy and whatever nonsense is being spouted by charlatans like Gillian McKeith.

So I am pondering Ben Goldacre's book (which I have not read myself) as an antidote. And out of curiosity as to how they take it... From reading his column I am assuming that they might at least learn what evidence means. The worst that can happen is that it will be like when they buy me books by self-styled experts and it will be passed on unread to a charity shop.

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beaniesinthebucketagain · 19/09/2009 13:14

hehe go for it, yanbu, but then i hate gillian mckeith

weegiemum · 19/09/2009 13:15

heheh

Ben Goldacre ROCKS!

goingslowlyroundthebend · 19/09/2009 13:25

That book is the best. Have re-read it so often. Feel bonkers for having believed the shite that I have been sold so often.
It really is a laugh out loud book, well written and lots of common sense!

BitOfFun · 19/09/2009 13:26

He is marvellous, and yy, you should get them the book for sure- it is superb!

You could also recommend How Mumbo Jumbo Conquered The World,

and the brilliant Suckers: How Alternative Medicine Makes Fools of Us All, to to ram the point home

HappyMummyOfOne · 19/09/2009 13:30

Its £3.60 on Amazon so cheap enough as a present of this nature.

AvrilH · 19/09/2009 13:35

At £3.60, I'll even order a copy for myself!

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kreecherlivesupstairs · 19/09/2009 15:28

I am going to get this for my ME suffering sister in law, YANBU. A lot of the cultural references pass me by, we don't get c4 and I think that is where 'Dr' McKeith peddles her nonsense, but it is a very good book.

Snorbs · 19/09/2009 15:46

Everybody should read it. It's fab.

LeonieSoSleepy · 19/09/2009 15:47

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diddl · 19/09/2009 15:48

Perhaps a book on how to make uptheir own minds and not be drawn into every "fad" going?

pooexplosions · 19/09/2009 17:23

Dangerous at best re Vax? or voice of reason amongst the conspiracy theorists and amauteur armchair microbiologists...you decide....

OrmIrian · 19/09/2009 17:25

Never heard of it but it sounds good. Think it would suit my dad for christmas - he would chortle!

UnquietDad · 19/09/2009 17:32

Oh, yes, definitely. While you are at it, get one for all the woo-mongers on here too!

Is it mainly your female relatives who fall for it?

I've always wondered whether more women than men are susceptible to all this crystal healing shit. I'm prepared to concede that may be a little bit sexist of me, but it's just that I don't know many blokes who are into it. If, indeed, any.

notevenamousie · 19/09/2009 17:32

It's a well written book. Go for it!

diddl · 19/09/2009 17:34

I don´t know about this book, but is Ben Goldacre trying to push his opinions just as much as others?

BitOfFun · 19/09/2009 17:36

UQD, when I saw this thread, I thought of you!

alwayslookingforanswers · 19/09/2009 17:36

diddl - yes he's just as bonkers - just in the opposite direction.

BitOfFun · 19/09/2009 17:37

Diddl, there are opinions in it, yes. And, er, facts

UnquietDad · 19/09/2009 17:38

I know, he's so unreasonable - he will insist on finding evidence for things and disbelieving all the stuff which is patently made up and exists only in people's heads. Some men are like that. Best steer clear of them...

moondog · 19/09/2009 17:38

Ooh, I think approx. 90% of this country need to read it.
I had to have a long conversation with someone today who told me she was a reiki healer.
You can imagine how difficult it was for me to keep a straight face and supress urge to cackle hysterically and say 'Don't talk such complete shit you silly cow!'

hulahoopyfingers · 19/09/2009 17:38

TBH I would think you need a good science book if you think superfoods should be lumped in with homeopathy and crystal healing

tummytickler · 19/09/2009 17:38

Thanks - you have solved my 'what to buy mother for Christmas' problem - she believes any old nonsense she reads! maybe this will cure her!

moondog · 19/09/2009 17:39

V good UQD

alwayslookingforanswers · 19/09/2009 17:39

well I'm sure there are just as many people can prove his "facts" right as there that can prove them wrong.

What a simple life we'd lead if everything was so black and white with a "yes" or "no" answer.

edam · 19/09/2009 17:39

Ben Goldacre is doing a useful job educating the public about science reporting. But his take on MMR is profoundly sexist (it's all down to us 'Mums' being thick, apparently ) and he picks on such easy/obvious targets.

UQD, before you fall into the same trap re. sexism, perhaps you could consider that, in general, women take a bigger interest in health issues and have more contact with health professionals. Hence there are likely to be more women interested in complementary medicine.

Actually if you look at IQ charts, there are more thick men than thick women (although admittedly there are apparently more super-super intelligent men but clearly at that end of the scale it's a research artefact or summat ).

Kreecher, Gillian McKeith makes TV programmes sneering at poor people who don't get up at 5am to make fresh smoothies with out-of-season blueberries - yet she doesn't bother to cook for her own family. She has a chef deliver fresh food every night!

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