DH left the toilet seat up today

[GirlsAreLOud]

How much shall I ask for in the divorce settlement?

So does everyone shut the lid when you flush then.

if the loo seat is left up all the time then things fall in the bowl

like children

spiders

kittens (my brother actually rescued one from drowning in the loo when we were little)

and apparently if you flush with the seat up then particles of faecal matter spray all over the bathroom, over things like toothbrushes (I read this somewhere and it always makes me )

definitely unreasonable behaviour

Well Abetadad, what are you thinking now? I'm wondering if my life's mission is to be fanatical and shut all the toilet seats in our house all the time?
Mind you 45 years of flushing with the lid up and spraying stuff everywhere hasn't killed me yet...

Seat up is a trap for cats (according to DH).
Seat down is a way of ensuring I get a wet arse if I use it after DS'2

My wife always leaves the toilet seat down. Drives me mad. It's much harder to bend down and lift it up than it is for her to flick it down. I might divorce her.

ooh, ABetaDad, you agreed with me in that previous thread about putting the seat and the lid down all the time!
It's mutiny, that's what it is!

I can just see the whole world collapsing around my ears.

its outragous. i will not countenance it in my home

the males of the house will be summoned to said toilet to put their hands on the seat to replace it before i use it

AbetaDad - Why should the seat go down? Not sure about the seat but as for the lid - There was a BBC series a while back about bugs and bacteria. The one I saw they were trying to work out why a girl was getting constant upset tums. The sink in her bathroom was right next to her loo. With some sort of light they showed the tiny water particles (prob not the correct scientific term) coming out of the loo when it was flushed. All loos do this apparently. Her toothbrush was nicely coated in loo bacteria...

Why should a bloke have to put it down? He has to lift the seat up, I have to put it down. At least gravity is on my side when lowering it.
If you had 3 sons it would be daft for the seat to stay down for the token woman's convenience

To avoid contamination, is the best thing to do is to strap up the toilet and mark it out of use and use a deep hole in the ground and burn all implements used in digging and refilling the hole after.
How about pouring petrol in the latrines like they did in Vietnam?

If you have the opportunity, why not have one each?

If there is a downstairs toilet, this is usually small and so should be the boys' where they can leave the seat wherever they like, together with lots of reading material of course. The only stipulation would be that it needs to be at least a bit presentable for guests etc.

The second, upstairs?, toilet to be the girls', so left as found - fragrant, seat down, and clean and hygienic as possible?! If the pooh / toothbrush combo-scenario is correct then these usually upstairs so kept 'clean' as practicable?!

Its at times like these when I think we need to look to history.

Now I am no classical scholar but I bet when Cleopatra was sat in the bath of asses milk twiddling her hair she was not thinking "Ooh that Mark Anthony he is lovely but I wish he would put the seat down". When Julius Caesar surveyed the shores of Britain he did not utter the imortal words "Veni, Vidi, Vici .... but only after I have popped back to Rome to put the loo seat down". More modern hisory would need to be rewritten if Lord Nelson had turned to Hardy as he lay sricken on the deck and said "Kiss me Hardy, but be a love and pop below to put the lid down when I'm gone". Churchill did not castigate 'The Few' for scambling too quickly and forgetting to put the lavy seat down before taking off to duel man-to-man with the mighty hordes of the Luftwaffe.

No indeed, real men of history just dashed in and dashed out again with barely a second thought and then on to conquer all before them.

There is surely a lesson in there for all of us.

ihave 2 sons and a dh - the seat goes down.

they can piss with it down if they so wish as long as they don't piss on the seat and clean it - if they do

theat has to be lifted because they piss on it if not

ergo - they lift it

i dont piss on it

i dont have to lift it

besides to me, its good manners - like carrying the shopping or holding open the door or please, thank you for the meal,opening my car door

Why don't men just sit down?? Honestly, if you had a loo room like ours, where you can see the splatters on the wall caused by Niagara weeing, you'd want them to sit down. Is it considered non-macho to stand?

My DH now sits down (after seeing the artwork on the walls and finding it a better option than cleaning them) and positively relishes the opportunity for a 'nice sit down and a rest'.

Still working on ds1, though. Bleugh. Seat-sprinkler.

i think its emasculating for men to sit down

Why though? They sit down to do 'the other', why is it emasculating to sit down to pee? Different in public loos I grant you- not to mention virtually impossible to sit on a urinal- but at home?

I don't get it.

I'm amazed at all these people who can leave their toilet seats up - have 2 wooden toilet seats, and neither will stay up on their own. What are we doing wrong!!!!

The tv series showed correllation not causation. I bet if they did a survey of tummy bugs in people with lid up re lid down there would be no difference. Our lid stays up unless I'm reading a story to a kid in the bath or waiting for hairdye, immac etc to work, otherwise it's up and no tummy bugs.
The whole world is coated in bugs.

man here who never puts it down, not going to start anytime soon. when i want to piss i lift it up, if the person after me requires it down they can put it down.

Toilet seat lifter

www.amazon.com/HomeHelper-Line-Toilet-Seat-Lifter/dp/B000KJZ13C

Well, there are 4 possibilities when one goes to the toilet, right - I'm only including a heterosexual adult couple in this, ok?

1. Woman needs to piss - seat down
2. Woman needs to crap - seat down
3. Man needs to piss - seat (maybe) up, though I don't see why it's essential
4. Man needs to crap - seat down.

Now, given that you don't know what the next person will want to do, surely there's a 3/4 chance the seat will need to be down, so it's sensible to leave it down.

I am suddenly aware that this may spark a (possibly) unwarranted discussion on the relative ratio of piss/crap in households. Apologies in advance.

There was a thread a year or two ago from a mumsnetter who found out that her dh had been sitting down whilst having a pee on the toilet. It did not go down very well on here I tell you. It did get very ugly. I did see divorce him being mentioned in quite a few posts.

DP and DS always leave it up (DD is still in nappies so has yet to express an opinion), but it doesn't bother me in the least. It seems such a pointless cliched thing for women to complain about, so I made a decision years ago that it really wasn't important enough to argue about it.

DD's theory is that 90% of the time men will leave (at the very least) traces of wee on the rim of the bowl. Then the seat goes down, thus putting the underneath of the seat in contact with the residual wee. So when she comes along to find the seat up, and has to put it down again, there's no way she can do that without touching someone's wee.

I've pointed out that urine is sterile but she persists. In her defence, she has 3 brothers.

seat down
lid down

it just looks soo much better

[whispers] but i am very anal about these sort of things.