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aibu to think no woman would be offended by the phrase "gentlemans agreement"

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daftpunk · 24/08/2009 12:03

some other phrases the PC brigade want banned;

black day

right hand man

oh, and whiter than white

lololo

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beanieb · 24/08/2009 12:09

is this a daily mail thread? I think it's right up their street! Oh yes - I see the llink now

I would like the phrase 'PC Brigade' banned... and also 'do-gooders' particularly when used by people who seem to think that doing good is somehow bad.

Arses!

of course, banning things like 'black board' and 'black day' is just ridiculous arsery!

wheredidiputmyfone · 24/08/2009 12:10

Looks like George Orwells 1984 Newspeak to me, I don't like it when people try to tell others how to think/speak.

But saying that, when you look at some words that are inappropriate now I can see where they're coming from eg 'You spastic!' was very popular when I was younger.

daftpunk · 24/08/2009 12:11

the best one is "master bedroom"....why ban that?

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TheOldestCat · 24/08/2009 12:12

Love the idea of the PC Brigade. Where do they meet up to plan their attacks on the language? Do they have a special uniform?

kathyis6incheshigh · 24/08/2009 12:13

Yes, I like 'gentleman's agreement' - everyone knows what it means and I like the irony knowing how 'gentlemen' have really behaved through history.

StayFrostysOtherSister · 24/08/2009 12:15

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daftpunk · 24/08/2009 12:16

black day to be replaced by miserable day....i don't know any black person who would be offended by "black day"

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PitysSake · 24/08/2009 12:16

oh its bollocks

DP oyu can do better

Rindercella · 24/08/2009 12:17

Oh boy, the genuine DM reader comments (not us lot playing silly buggers):

I urge anyone who is a native of this country to breed and get into politics we need to make a difference and get idiots like these out of the halls of power and into janitors overalls

  • simon, london uk, 24/8/2009 12:03

Fecking hell. God save us all from cretins like this.

J

OrmIrian · 24/08/2009 12:19

Tis PC gorn mad!

daftpunk · 24/08/2009 12:20

pityssake;

if only it wasn't true...

iv'e heard of schools/playgroups changing the words to bah bah black sheep....

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PitysSake · 24/08/2009 12:21

well as someone who has worked in schools and the public sector i havent heard of any of it

the only one was a big discussion about renaming chairman " chair" and it wad roundly dismissed.
( nto by me i was in the right on brigade)

Rindercella · 24/08/2009 12:24

I think they tried to do that back in the 80s DP, and the words are still baa baa black sheep.

Tis a load of shit stirring nonsense.

TheOldestCat · 24/08/2009 12:24

Have you really dp? Or is that just an urban myth?

PitysSake · 24/08/2009 12:24

i never have
its a load of cra
anyway the cultural significance of the might song bababblack sheep is pretty small

StayFrostysOtherSister · 24/08/2009 12:25

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daftpunk · 24/08/2009 12:26

myth?.... you haven't been able to say blackboard for years...

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Rindercella · 24/08/2009 12:28

Ehh? "you haven't been able to say blackboard for years... "

You're just up for a good old ruck aren't you DP

PuppyMonkey · 24/08/2009 12:28

Yes, I saw a documentary or something where all of these "It's PC gone mad, I tells yer" type stories are ALL a load of nonsense and no-one ever has actually banned the word black and stuff. And many of the equality groups are about it because it makes their real, genuine grievances look silly.

StayFrostysOtherSister · 24/08/2009 12:29

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PitysSake · 24/08/2009 12:29

oh god dafty this is your weakest evereffort!!

white board blakc board
or tbhinteractive - thats much more inclusive

youa re, in all honesty, talkign bollocks

LynetteScavo · 24/08/2009 12:29

So if I enter into a "gentlemans agreement" can I get out of it because I'm, a woman?

TheOldestCat · 24/08/2009 12:32

I like this from comedian Stewart Lee (talking to an audience where the majority said they agreed that 'political correctness has gone mad'):

"It really worries me that 84% of this audience agrees with that statement, because the kind of people that say "political correctness gone mad" are usually using that phrase as a kind of cover action to attack minorities or people that they disagree with.

I'm of an age that I can see what a difference political correctness has made. When I was four years old, my grandfather drove me around Birmingham, where the Tories had just fought an election campaign saying, "if you want a nigger for a neighbour, vote Labour," and he drove me around saying, "this is where all the niggers and the coons and the jungle bunnies live."

And I remember being at school in the early 80s and my teacher, when he read the register, instead of saying the name of the one asian boy in the class, he would say, "is the black spot in," right? And all these things have gradually been eroded by political correctness, which seems to me to be about an institutionalised politeness at its worst.

And if there is some fallout from this, which means that someone in an office might get in trouble one day for saying something that someone was a bit unsure about because they couldn't decide whether it was sexist or homophobic or racist, it's a small price to pay for the massive benefits and improvements in the quality of life for millions of people that political correctness has made.

It's a complete lie that allows the right, which basically controls media now, and international politics, to make people on the left who are concerned about the way people are represented look like killjoys.

And I'm sick, I'm really sick-- 84% of you in this room that have agreed with this phrase, you're like those people who turn around and go, "you know who the most oppressed minorities in Britain are? White, middle-class men." You're a bunch of idiots.
From "Heresy", BBC Radio 4, 16th May 2007"

kathyis6incheshigh · 24/08/2009 12:32

DM nicked this story from other papers, not sure where it originated (eg here

OtterInaSkoda · 24/08/2009 12:35

The DM reader comments are hilarious (and scary).

FWIW I do think that there's a case for considering trying to avoid "black day" simply because it's a negative. I also think it's perfectly reasonable and helpful (and not even remotely Orwellian) for organisations to give guidance to their staff regarding language.

But yes, as Rinders says tis a load of shit stirring nonsense.