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To think the UK citizenship test is full of pointless questions which will not help people live in the UK?

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dilemma456 · 05/08/2009 20:11

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purepurple · 06/08/2009 08:31

I failed
I am obviously not British enough, despite being born here and living here all my life, like all my family before me.
Seriously, why on earth would anyone need to know any of that stuff?

troutpout · 06/08/2009 08:35

I failed it too

frasersmummy · 06/08/2009 08:49

another failure here...

went back through to see the answers and unsuprisingly the stuff I didnt know was stuff that doesnt affect me. eg why would i ever want/need to know how many people claimed to be muslim or how many parliamentary constituents there are..

These are the kind of questions you learn parrot fashion for a test and then completely forget. Surely it would be better to base the questions around british traditions eg bonfire night etc.. then people would belearning stuff that will help them integrate into a new culture

LeonieSoSleepy · 06/08/2009 08:49

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tattybojangles · 06/08/2009 08:54

I actually did the test a few years ago (before it cost £600)
I passed it quite easily. but i studied my ass off.

if i wrote the test today however i would fail.

tattybojangles · 06/08/2009 08:55

"They've made it so hard because they spectacularly fucked up letting so many eastern europeans in"

Racist much?

Iklboo · 06/08/2009 08:56

Wouldn't questions on laws, customs etc rthaer than 'have a go at guessing how may teens we think are in the UK' and what the feck Ulster Scots is? Why exactly is that relevant to becoming a UK Citizen?

leftangle · 06/08/2009 08:57

Are people taking the test given a book or something with all this info in to study? If not I don't even see how you can prepare for a test like this?

expatinscotland · 06/08/2009 08:57

Eastern Europeans don't have to take a UK citizenship test. They are EU nationals.

tattybojangles · 06/08/2009 08:59

leftangle: you have to buy the book. but it's cheaper than failing and having to resit!

stuffitlllama · 06/08/2009 09:03

Leonie loads of people pay tax and contribute financially and otherwise to the countries they live in, but won't be entitled to nationality. Maybe it should be different but it's not.

Surely the point is not that you should know all this stuff, but that it takes effort and study to pass the test?

The only nutty thing is asking questions about things that are moveable feasts, like benefits and learning initiatives.

Welfare bureacracy is ludicrously complicated and people who work in it have to look stuff up. How is an applicant expect to learn volumes of that?

However I completely agree about Bonfire Night and all that ..twould be fun to see a bit of that in.

expatinscotland · 06/08/2009 09:12

They're going to charge you to put a new ILR in your new passport when you go to renew.

I'm glad I'm naturalised because the government just tightened the rules for naturalisation AGAIN. And for ILR.

My landlord's son-in-law is from SA and he's planning to naturalise as soon as his 11 months on ILR are up.

Better sooner rather than later.

stuffitlllama · 06/08/2009 09:23

I'd have to wait 12 years where I live.

LeonieSoSleepy · 06/08/2009 19:23

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WhereYouLeftIt · 06/08/2009 22:50

14/24, born and bred Scot!

But why would I care when a married woman could first divorce her husband, when it's been the case all my life?? Or that there are 15m under 18s? As OP said, how does knowing the right answer assist in living in the UK. The speedlimit question, yeah, but other names for the C of E? (I guessed them!)

snickersnack · 06/08/2009 23:08

I passed (just) with some guesses. dh failed and he's probably the best informed person I know where current affairs is concerned. But he knows useful stuff like how proportional representation works, and what the last budget said.

flockwallpaper · 06/08/2009 23:19

Ha, I got 8, a big fat fail. I'm British born and bred and reasonably well read but honestly, why would I know how many days schools have to be open for? What a load of nonsense.

Thanks for posting, quite interesting to have a go.

GothAnneGeddes · 07/08/2009 11:53

Dh got the book, memorised it, passed it. English is not his first language either.

I'm very disgusted that any conversation about immigration includes people using 'hordes' and 'overrun' to discuss their fellow human beings.

I would quite happily send racist Americans back, we have enough bigots here already.

LeonieSoSleepy · 07/08/2009 19:13

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funtimewincies · 07/08/2009 19:35

Oops, 14 at this end (joint effort between dh and myself, again both British born and 2 post-graduate qualifications between us ).

Shows the whole 'memorising a pointless book which will be of little use' farce for what it is. Thanks for the link .

funtimewincies · 07/08/2009 19:36

Dh has just come back in and said 'are you sure that link is genuine, it can't be - CAN IT?!'

choufleur · 07/08/2009 19:41

14 out of 24. i'm clearly not very British.

very weird questions - what average person walks round with answers to those in the heads. i'd like to see Gordon brown's reponses and Nick Griffin (could we send him somewhere ?)

oneopinionatedmother · 07/08/2009 19:59

stupid effing thing worthy of third-world-craphole dictatorships only.

Our govt wastes the time of would-be contributors to the UK economy with this crap only to please the lunatic rascist fringes of the UK population.

oneopinionatedmother · 07/08/2009 20:14

oh, i failed too - 14/24.

some of the questions are badly phrased and factually incorrect -

eg - for a problem with your employer, you can go for help to all four of the listed places (Citizens advice, employer, MP, ACAS.) They list CAB and ACAS only, in actual fact the first place to start in most cases would be the employer.

census information is available when they process it (which takes years) - the private part of that information may be kept secret, but the generic results are made available.

Doobydoo · 07/08/2009 20:26

I got 9Fantastic