AIBU to think that BFing is not 'the *most* natural thing in the world'?

[TrillianAstrahasaJOB]

Natural and good, yes.

The most natural thing in the world? I think not.

May I suggest that pooing is in fact the most natural thing in the world?

Evidence:
everyone poos, not everyone BFs
pooing is easier than BFing, no-one needs to be taught to poo
we poo for more of our lives than we BF
more animals poo than BF

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(am pro BFing, but anti twee statements)

Really? Don't you both do that glass coffee table thing then? It's the latest sex act on MN you know...

Lactate or breastfeed?

Your breasts produce colostrum whether you like it or not, and 98% of women will lactate to some extent. So yes - it is natural. It's like sneezing or farting - your body does it without you choosing.

The fact that lots of women these days choose to supress lactation doesn't make lactation itself 'unnatural'.

(re your analogy with poo - if someone came along with a 'wonder food' which was completely absorbed by the body so as not to produce any waste, and most people chose to eat it, thereby reducing those people who chose to eat traditional foods - 'pooers' a small minority, it wouldn't make normal pooing 'unnatural')

Glass coffee table?

Natural isn't synonymous with 'suitable for public viewing' you know (as Ali kind of said before)

Something can be more natural but less suitable for doing in public, or vice versa.

Get with the programme Trillian...

I am just bored in a lingerie shop full of huge dildoes, Vinny, and my mind wanders...I really can't help it.

Technically it is the most natural thing in the world, as Sabire says, but when you MIL says it you naturally want to gorge her eyes out with a tea spoon

BOF can you get me discount? [frustrated old spinster emoction]

We should put a big cultural caveat on all of this. There are plenty of world cultures where shitting, for example, would be seen as less private than in our culture, whereas blowing your nose, for example, is a truly disgusting act only to be carried out in private.

So the fact that something is or is not natural (however natural is defined) has no relevance to whether a specific culture believes it should be carried out in private or in public (whatever private and public are deemed to mean).

Have I stopped the thread now?

We thought there'd been a burglary at the shop Vinny, but it turned out to be squatters moving in...

Sabire - I am pro BFing, I promise, don't get upset. It is definitely the most natural way for a mammal to feed its offspring. But not the most natural thing. And not even the most natural bodily function.

I am pro brestfeeding but iIhate the posters in hospital which claim

' its natural its easy and saves you money'

its actually hard work, difficult to master and painful if someone had told me this before I had my dd I would have stuck at it for longer because she was completely normal.

my ds I knew the issues and managed to feed him for as long as I wanted to.

yanbu- breastfeeding really didn't come naturally to me.
Shagging on the other hand..................!

You're right, it isn't the most natural thing in the world, but it is the natural way for mammals like us to feed our babies.

not sure what you're hoping to achieve by even starting this thread? other than the usual BF/FF bun fight

Hoping to achieve... um, some poo jokes?

I was hoping to find that I am not alone in thinking when people use twee and pointless phrases that actually do nothing to promote breastfeeding. Will that do?

If you expect a bun fight you've been reading an entirely different thread to me.

Obviously....

apologies, have two poorly children and four hours selpp since Wednesday under my belt

selpp.....? see what i mean?

No problemo... Go get some selpp, whatever that is. Do they sell it in Tesco?

sounds alcoholic whatever it is

Alcoholic but also restorative maybe. I always claim that G&T must be good for you because a 'tonic' can't help but be beneficial

I would say the beating of a heart in the body is the most natural thing....because the heartmuscle just does it Followed closely by breathing

As for pooing...whislt pooing itself may not be something that has to be learnt...i.e. elimiating is a natural automatic response...the act of pooing and of coruse peeing in the correct place is something that needs to be learned....and that is NOT always easy (can you tell, I have a child with poo-witholding issues...sigh....I so wish it was just that easy though!

bf is natural, of course, but it is something that has to be learned, that is for sure...

oh just howled with lauhgter at BitOfFuns Glass table thing...my neihgbours now probably think that I am a complete loon....(sitting out in the garden with my laptop, you see)

surely the most natural thing in the world is cell division
are we not all related to a single amoeba?
Mine's called Brian