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to be SHOCKED that I was attacked this morning by a 90yr old man!!!!! And they say its TEENAGERS that are the HOOLIGANS!

72 replies

MsF · 01/07/2009 13:53

To be fair...technically.... I was 'in the wrong'...I had parked on his 'white lines' outside his driveway...but had NOT obstructed his driveway.

I had taken DS to see the Paediatrician opposite tghis mans house.

I did realsise what i had done...but thought that it was OK as he could still use his driveway.

So...I admit i was wrong.

However, what he did to me was so scarey- and had my autistic son screaming/crying....and 2 neighbours came out to restrain this man- as he was shouting- pulling at my car door- pulling at my open window.... and trying to grab me out of the car.

he said he had called the police- and did not want me to drive off . he threatened me....

and he says he is in his 90's.

so now i don't know whether to laugh or cry...i am dreading the newspaper headlines this week..."Man in his 90's dies of a heart attack after road rage at mum driving a ford Ka" (!!!!!)

I was shakey for about half an hour- and one of the neighbours offered to act as a witness should i wish to press charges of assault!

I shall not be doing that.... however...if he did call the police...and if they do contact me to slap my wrist...then i shall say what happened.

I can honestly say that the shouting on eastenders was NOTHING compared to the anger of this man!!!!

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minouminou · 01/07/2009 14:16

She's not reporting him for being annoyed about the parking, as she's admitted she shouldn't have done that, she's getting him some kind of help, as it really was an out-of-proportion reaction, and he may well need help.

QuintessentialShadow · 01/07/2009 14:16

No it is not. I did not say that.

Rhubarb · 01/07/2009 14:17

Regardless of his age - he went to attack a woman with her child, and had to be physically restrained by his neighbours.

What if it had been an old lady? Or a pregnant woman? Would he still be in the right just because he's an old man?

QuintessentialShadow · 01/07/2009 14:18

oh, so now the op is not just deciding what will block this mans drive, but a professional judgement has been made regards his mental health and he is being helped by getting reported.

Goodness me.

Parp.

Rhubarb · 01/07/2009 14:18

MsF, report him. He assaulted you. He should not get away with this because of his age. As my earlier post quotes, these lines are not legally enforceable - you did not block access to his drive.

LadyGlencoraPalliser · 01/07/2009 14:19

QS, you said:
"he would not have attacked the op if she had not parked on the white lines outside his drive. He attacked her (and possibly others before her) because they were being a nuisance"
How is that not saying that he was justified in what he did?

limonchik · 01/07/2009 14:19

I think I'll lamp the next person I see parking with two wheels on the pavement - that always irritates me.

minouminou · 01/07/2009 14:20

There's no professional judgement....only an opinion based on his reaction...social services will be alerted to problematic behaviour and he'll be assessed if they think it necessary.

fucksticks · 01/07/2009 14:20

'His behaviour may be OTT, but he would not have attacked the op if she had not parked on the white lines outside his drive. He attacked her (and possibly others before her) because they were being a nuisance ignoring the white lines outside his drive.'

Doesn't matter WHY he attacked her surely? Physically assaulting someone is not fine just because she was being 'a nuisance ignoring the white lines outside his drive' Jeez

He sounds like a fruit loop and a danger to himself as well as others. Reporting him would likely get him help.

Rhubarb · 01/07/2009 14:20

I don't give a shit what his mental health is, NO-ONE should go around attacking people. If it had been a 30yo man who attacked her, you would be shouting for her to report it, what difference does his age make? As I said, what if it had been an elderly lady or a pregnant woman?

MsF · 01/07/2009 14:20

Q
"but a professional judgement has been made regards his mental health and he is being helped by getting reported. "

I have NOT said i am reporting him...It has been suggested to me that i do....

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CyradisTheSeer · 01/07/2009 14:20

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MsF · 01/07/2009 14:22

and the more i read...the more i think i should report it...

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traceybath · 01/07/2009 14:23

I think the questions as to dementia are actually quite kind - ie, trying to think of a reasonable explanation for an old man trying to attack a woman with a small child.

But perhaps he's just a nasty old man who's decided to take the law into his own hands.

I got shouted at once for parking opposite a dr's surgery as the car park was full. I wasn't obstructing anything but the lady was just cross because she then had to park further from her house.

I appreciate its frustrating when you can't park outside your own house but thats just how it tends to be nowadays unfortunately.

foofi · 01/07/2009 14:23

I often get people parking across my drive, albeit usually a little bit across it and not entirely stopping me from getting in and out. It drives me completely mental. I've never actually attacked anyone for doing it.

I don't have white lines outside my drive. Correct me if I'm wrong but white lines don't carry the same rules as yellow lines?

MsF · 01/07/2009 14:25

thinking about when the neighbours rushed over...they were panicking before it had occurred to me to be alarmed...so they must have seen him react like this before.

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minouminou · 01/07/2009 14:26

you don't have to call the "real" police, the community support guys were great with my incident. I realised the old woman didn't have a clue what she'd done 30 seconds after she'd done it and so calmed down and decided to get her some help
she had NO-ONE, and was also in her 90's.....you needn't press charges

Rhubarb · 01/07/2009 14:29

foofi, no. The white lines are advisory. s a resident you have to pay up to £150 to have them put there. If someone actually blocks access to your drive, the police can come and move their car.

The bottom line is, she wasn't blocking access to his driveway even if she was over the line a little. He went to attack her in front of her child. If it wasn't for his age, these responses would be very different. The police would take a dim view of this behaviour too.

MsF · 01/07/2009 14:30

i've just looked at the police website- and they have a 'report crime online' for non-urgent stuff...it is handled by the community police.

so may do that later.

everytime i hear a car stop outside to visit the shop...i think its the police coming to question me!!!!

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Rhubarb · 01/07/2009 14:34

MsF, if he reported you the police wouldn't come to question you. You didn't commit a crime. The white lines are advisory only, not legally enforceable. The police would only take action if you were blocking his drive and refusing to move.

If that neighbour offered to act as a witness, then take them up on it. Sounds as though he's done this many times before and the neighbours are hoping someone will actually report him.

minouminou · 01/07/2009 14:34

Honestly, MsF, I went from raging anger to pity in seconds, and when I spoke to one of the officers a few weeks later (they're always around, and so am I with pram, daft dog and dafter toddler!) she filled me in on her circumstances (as much as she was allowed to), and I'm glad I did what I did. I said straight off I didn't want to get her arrested/warned, and that I was calling it in as she may well have been unwell.

coppertop · 01/07/2009 14:35

at the idea that it's okay to try to drag a woman out of her car if she parks in the wrong place!

I hope you're okay, MsF.

minouminou · 01/07/2009 14:36

This is it, Rhubarb...chances are he has, and one day he'll either hurt someone, or end up badly hurt himself....

MsF · 01/07/2009 14:49

Hi CT!!!

I am fine!

Minnie- what you say is so right...I ALREADY feel sorry for him...also his wife.

I've just phoned DH...who wants to go up there and provocatively park outside his house...HAVE PERSUADED HIM THAT WILL NOT HELP.....

however...have agreed to let DH drive me up there later (NOT in my Red KA!!!!) so i can get the house number.

I am going to see how ds is after school today- i am worried how shocked he was.

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MsF · 01/07/2009 14:50

oops! MINOU....not minnie!!!

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