to be thinking wtf when it's difficult to walk down a street in town these days?

[LolaTheShowgirl]

The town I used to live in and grew up in is very multicultural. Some areas of the town are majority populated by the Asian community. Now the other day myself and 2 friends were walking through a particular area trying to find somewhere. None of us had ever been in this area before, but as it was a nice day people where out and about and we did not see one non-Asian person at all. The majority of our walk was on a main road and all the people in the cars were even Asian. This itself was not a problem. The problem was the hostile stares we recieved. People looked really angry that we had dared to be white and go in their area.

One of the people who was with us looks Pakistani (although is Iranian) and apparantely one of his friends saw us and said "it's lucky those white fuckers where with you, otherwise they'd have had a good beating by someone or other"

I expect they thought you were police and were about to stop and search them for no reason.

Good god talk about stereo typing angelene!

I cold list a few places whewre there are no non-whites whatsoever; I think this may be a debate about the tendency some oeple have to huddle in little communities regardless of colourn(as in, people of all colour do it) rather than necessarily raciost- OTOH I could be wrong, there's not enough info to know for sure.

I've never felt my presence to be an issue in the Asian area here, either. Or indeed in any mosques or similar I ever visited when studying.

There's a thousand reasons someone could be looked at oddly- toilet paper on their shoe, mutton top, nice shirt- and colour is but one of them that probably sits in the relatively unlikely box.

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As an aside, DP said yesterday that at work (where it's pretty much all straight white males in his department) there was a conversation going about how they were in fact DISCRIMINATED against nowadays in favour of minority groups.'

DH used to do that; wioth them it was gender.... 'Women in my palce always get an easy ride, lucky them'

readers, the only two female staff they ever had in a amagement role (of 20 or so) lasted under a year; one was a bully but the ohter was nicknamed the slub by one staff member sue to her size and treated espicalble .

The slug

the other connotation of my mistype is even more horrid

Peachy - I went into paroxysms of rage yesterday when Nick Griffin said that the reason the BNP won two Euro seats was because of 'racism' against white people. This is SO TOTALLY OFFENSIVE that is one of those touchstone moments for me.

Time to stand up and be counted. No excuses. You're either part of the problem or part of the solution.

All easy to say but I am at a bit of a loss to do about it

reach4sky

I'm not surprised someone might feel unwelcome in an environment like that.

Makes me wonder, in retrospect, how the only black child in my rough, white working class primary school of 400 felt. She ended up the school bully - looking back, I can't really say I blame her!

angelene- what to do about racsism?

learn stuff, so you can counter argue I guess

raise your kids (as I am sure you are doing) to realise how evil racism is, read the Qur'an etc so you know what it really says (very unlike some tossers would have you beleive)- read any faith texts youc an for same reason.

And just refuse to be racist yourself, or to allow it to slip past unquestioned.

'Tis the easy, little things that count- turning out not to vote for the BNP, calling in anyone that uses racially offensive terms (regardless of their originating culture- I wouldn't tolerate anya ddressed towards white people either); teaching your kids better.

Probably things you already do anyway

The OP did say on another thread that she was extremely overweight - size 26 I think.
That could be the reason for the stares - i wouldn't assume it was a race thing.

Not trying to be unkind but it makes more sense to me - Asian people tend to be slight.

I know the area that OP is referring to - its called Lyingoutofmyarseshire, due west of Imtalkingcraptown

Isn't Lola the one who keeps posting daft baby names like Nipplebiter just to get a reaction??

Hi Peachy

Yes all stuff I do anyway - DH is an RE teacher so all that stuff is covered in great detail .

I'm the sort of person that wants to just FIX something when it's wrong, so this is all very frustrating.

The worst thing is that the left is as usual so tied up in factionalism that it's worse than useless.

The BNP has made gains by doing stuff that matters to people in areas where it gets into power at any level - clearing up dog mess, making sure people's bins get collected, that kind of thing. All low-level stuff but the left get so hung up about BIG stuff that they lose sight of the smaller stuff which is actually important.

I seem to recall that the IWCA had similar tactics and were doing OK in some areas, I must find out what they're up to again.

Ah your Dha nd I are have similar backgrounds Angelene then

The BNP is scarier than many fascist groups becuase it is run by intellectually intelligent (as opposed to EQ intelligent) people who can work out how to ingratiate themselves, exactly as you describe.

So all you can do is shout when you can. My lovely friend was looking at voting for them- because she beleived the shit about whites made to feel like second hand citizens. She lived in a Somerset village FFS, afaik there are no non whites there- well there was one, she went to Aus (she was Indian)as she had enough. Actually having sen news today hoep she's OK there

But she beleived what she was told about inner cities and the like without ever actually visiting one.

i think I persuaded her to not bote BNP- I introduced her to a few wider policies nd a bit of relaism (living now right next to a city)..... but I can nly assume that this is how the BNP work

FioFio - was that the delightful chap who thought that rape was 'no big deal' ?? he sounds so warm and cuddly...

it's odd (and i accept it could be a troll, the set-up seems a bit too contrived whatever about the final remark) that if this had been a black or asian person who described this scenario with the racist line being delivered by say a bnp member i sincerely doubt that there'd be that many people questioning her integrity.

Surely the Op lives in Underthebridge, Trollshire

Totally agree Peachy.

(BTW DH is head of RE at St Albans in Pontypool if you know it, as I know you're from nearby.)

Lola is a anme I recognise, she's not a classic troll

I ahve no reason to doubt her tale of what happened (though she has vansihed now), however ther could be so many things explaining it, so her perception of events could be way off

there are racist Asians out there, in all races and groups- not just to whites, i've sat with a Sikh girl with a few things to say about Muslims and Hindu girls.

But i don't think there are very many racist areas about

I eman, if the rep really is this bad couldn't it be simply they werejust looking in surprise- as in thank goodness some white poeple aren't so sill as to belive all the hype?

Hang on a second, MayorQuimby, are you saying that the Asian community is the equivalent of the BNP? That is a false analogy. The BNP are inherently racist whereas the Asian community is not.

Vaguely angelene.

I just did a degree in world faiths at caerleon, hoing to do RE Teaching but they add complication each year (if I train in Carmarthen I can do experience here but have to commute to Carmarthen, wheres if I go to Bristol it'scloser but then I could get palcement anywhere in Midlands).

So am considering saying stuff it and doing SW tarining instead, which would be a bit sad but reality exists and it was always a close tun thing

That sounds rough Peachy, hope it works out for you.

"Hang on a second, MayorQuimby, are you saying that the Asian community is the equivalent of the BNP? That is a false analogy"

no that wasn't my point a all. my point was that i don't think as many people would be questioning the story if it fit in with what we expect the face of racism to be, e.g. a white person belittling an ethnic minority, posssibly should have just left it as white rather than white bnp memeber. where as when presented with a story of a racist ethnic minority we seem to immediately look to pick holes or make excuses when if it was a white person many of us would take it at face value and condemn it.
if it had been an asian person teling this story not nearly as many would be saying "are you sure that's what he said" etc

i've even seen people claim on this board that racism towards whites doesn't exist or isn't as bad as you have to be in a majority or the position of power to perpetrate it,so othnic minorities being racist isn't something we can complain about because it will never be as bad as that perpetrated by the white race.

that was my only point.that i honestly believe this thread would be going a completely different way if the OP (wether troll or not) had said she was asian or black and the racist abuse had come from a white person a considerably less amount of people would be questioning it,or trying to excuse it.

The OP is over on the baby names section a lot posting wind up threads about daft names.

Well MayorQuimby, the OP was claiming that the entire population of a certain area was being racist towards her. I doubt that. Just as I would doubt an Asian person saying that the ENTIRE white population of an area was racist towards them.

I think you are manipulating the original "facts" to make a point about racism against white people. Disingenous to say the least.