To leave my £80 of shopping for the checkout assistant to put away

[mummytopebs]

Was in supermarket doing my shopping got to the till, had £80 worth of shopping in this was 4 cans of john smiths for dh. The drink was at the end of the shopping so everything had gone through, the checkout lady asked for id (I am 29 but do look young but not that young and god its 4 cans of beer with a full shop not some chavvy drink) I said i did not have any on me but i used to work in the said supermarket so said can you call my old manager who will verify my age. She tutted at me and called the line manager who i used to work for, she said yes she is definitly over age it was 6 years when i worked there and i was definitly over 18 then. The jobsworth sorry checkout lady still looked at me distastefully and the manager said it is up to the checkout lady though cos she originally akked for the id. I said can i have it then and she looked at me and went nah !!!!!!!! I said are you joking and hse said no i dont think you are over age!!!!!! So i said well i'll leave it then and she said ok and put the beer down and said thats £80.71p and i said no i will leave the lot - grabbed my dd and flounced out of the shop with an air of triumph.

I dont care if i had been shopping for an hour, i used to work in that supermarket and know she will have to put it all away ha ha ha

anyone linked to this yet? Very funny

news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/sussex/7092723.stm

This happened to a colleague of my dh once in America. He had just gone across to work in the Amrican office for a wee while and went with dh to stock up. He had checked through a trolley worth about $350 (he was stocking up a flat!) when he was asked for ID. He presented his passprot but that wasn't acceptable . The only thing they would accept was an American driver's licence (this was in the days before UK driving licences had photos)

Even the mnanager woldn't budge.

So they left the whole trolley....

The following day their Amrican PA hit the roof, made a few phone calls, as a result of which they were issued with America driving licences that didn't authorise them to drive...

Dh's collegaue rang home to tell them thet "he now had a licence to drink!"

Yup, Nahui is right...frankly, you can VERY easily be 35 and look 25 or younger...and no ID, no sale...

Despite asking earlier if it is illegal for me to buy alcohol without ID (and finding the answer is evidently no, then) i actually couldn't care less if we had to carry ID in this country. I think i would be frequently arrested however as i forget things on a regular basis when leaving the house (phone, keys, purse, entire handbag on freaky days).

What i object to, and the reason i will NEVER carry ID unless this changes, is that we have to pay for it. Scr*w that. I don't drink, DH isn't bothered - i'd just stop buying it if we had to have ID.

Nahui - sorry but you are talking nonsense. Adults are allowed to give their own children alcohol in their own home. How do you suppose the adults come by that that alcohol? They don't steal it, do they?

I was until yesterday completely unaware of this under 25 "rule". I was going to pose the question why there hasn't been a huge media campaign to make the public aware, but then it can't be explained in simple terms, can it? and there is no legislation to back it up, so its all a terrible mish mash as the op on this thread just goes to prove ...

an assistant can not sell alcohol to a person they suspect is buying it for a minor. that's it. suspicion. no obligation to sell. if in doubt refuse the sale.

if you as a parent choose to give your child alcohol in your own home that's your decision. but a retailer can not knowingly sell it to you for that purpose, or if they suspect it is for that purpose.

in a restaurant or pub serving table meals, an adult can buy beer, wine or cider for 16-18s to drink with the meal.

Mintyy is right, nahui, you are allowed to give your own children alcohol at home from the age of 5.

I knew nothing about this law but find it incredibly funny. We have Surraln effing sugar being asked to help run the country, politicians who cannot remember if they have mortgages but always seem to remember to put a claim in 'just-in-case', and now we have grannies being refused alcohol.

You couldn't make it up.

Just order it online through Laithwaites or Virgin or the like and be done with it.

Supermarkets use booze to get punters in.

Half the problem with binge drinking is cut-price supermarket deals, that's why in Scotland the government is trying to roll in a minimum price scheme.

Don't like their Think 25 stuff (which seems pretty stupid to me because they're not consistent and apparently a photo driving license isn't sufficient ID?), then buy the goods online and don't give them your money.

yes you can in your own home.

but the law states you can not buy alcohol for a minor. make of that what you will as a parent, but as a personal licence holder that means having no part in selling alcohol to someone you suspect is buying it for a minor.

i have already explained why some shops will ask every customer for id.

photo driving licence is ok. paper licence isn't.

so, as a parent you can't be done supplying, you can't be done for posession, but you can be done for intent to supply.

hahahahahahahahahahahaha

you can be fined for buying alcohol for a minor.

you can be fined for selling alcohol intended for a minor.

you can lose your licence for not upholding the licencing objectives, one of which is around protecting children.

if you choose to give a child alcohol in your own home that's up to you. that part isn't to do with a purchase iyswim. it's the sale and purchase which is controlled.

But how does the cashier know who I intend to give the alcohol I buy to???

I appreciate that no one wants to get fined or the sack, all I am saying is, why is it ok to do your weeks shopping one week with a 13yr old, buy wine and go through the checkout with no problem, do the same the next week, produce I.D when asked, then be refused because you have a minor with you, and the cashier thinks you may be supplying said minor with alcohol.

If an 18 yr old goes to the checkout with his little brother/sister and a cheap bottle of cider, yes I can see you may think he intends to supply, but a mum with 2 kids a trolley load of food a bottle of wine and 4 cans of lager, why would you think she was going to supply alcohol?

Can you see what i'm saying?

"This means it is an offence to buy alcohol for someone under 18yrs with the monthly shopping and then bring it home for their later consumption. If it is spontaneously decided to share a glass of wine from a bottle with a person under 18 then the alcohol was not purchased with the intention at the time of sale and no offence is committed."

Impossible to prove intent here. What a load of tosh.

minty- they can not sell it to you if they suspect you intend to give it to a minor.

SUSPECT.

usually this is where teenagers stand outside the shop having sent someone in to buy for them.

it may also be if a middle aged woman is shopping with her teenage child and is buying 8WKDs along with the weekly shop. of course the alcohol could be for the woman, but you could suspect it's for the child.

trading standards do test purchases of the above transactions.

"The law quite implicitely states that if you buy alcohol and the child consumes it anywhere other than at the table at meal time then you can be prosecuted for intent to supply a minor with alcohol."

Sorry, but the law does not quite implicitly state this Nahui so I will not apologise for saying you are talking nonsense.

OK OK I believe you n, but the whole ridiculousness of the situation is beyond belief.

I can go to Tesco's with a 5 year old and buy wine which I may or may not at a future point in time choose to pour down his throat.

And I can go to Tesco's with a 16 year old if I buy a bottle of sherry because obviously a 16 year old only drinks cider.

But I can't go to Tesco's with my 24 year old wife and buy a bottle of wine if she looks her age and doesn't happen to have a driving licence with her.

unless it's for a meal
"except that a person may buy beer, cider or wine for someone over 16years and under 18yrs to go with a table meal "