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To leave my £80 of shopping for the checkout assistant to put away

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mummytopebs · 07/06/2009 18:51

Was in supermarket doing my shopping got to the till, had £80 worth of shopping in this was 4 cans of john smiths for dh. The drink was at the end of the shopping so everything had gone through, the checkout lady asked for id (I am 29 but do look young but not that young and god its 4 cans of beer with a full shop not some chavvy drink) I said i did not have any on me but i used to work in the said supermarket so said can you call my old manager who will verify my age. She tutted at me and called the line manager who i used to work for, she said yes she is definitly over age it was 6 years when i worked there and i was definitly over 18 then. The jobsworth sorry checkout lady still looked at me distastefully and the manager said it is up to the checkout lady though cos she originally akked for the id. I said can i have it then and she looked at me and went nah !!!!!!!! I said are you joking and hse said no i dont think you are over age!!!!!! So i said well i'll leave it then and she said ok and put the beer down and said thats £80.71p and i said no i will leave the lot - grabbed my dd and flounced out of the shop with an air of triumph.

I dont care if i had been shopping for an hour, i used to work in that supermarket and know she will have to put it all away ha ha ha

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scottishmummy · 08/06/2009 21:24

enough with the cut & paste.make your point without copying mine

no,the seller of the alcohol has the responsibility for the sale.not the on looking manager.

so frankly the manager could have shouted it is Elvis for all it mattered.it doesn't mater as the cashier has the responsibility for the sale

the op was trying "i know the manager" to influence the outcome.it didn't

Nahui · 08/06/2009 21:38

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MrsBonJovi · 08/06/2009 21:42

So if I shop online and a child/teenager happens to answer the door/ be in the house when the delivery driver comes will he ask for all the ID in the house?!

How stupid the supermarkets are trying to discourage us from shopping with teenagers..dont they realise the random frivilous purchases they entice us to buy!

duchesse · 08/06/2009 21:44

I really don't understand where the discretionary element of this whole malarkey comes in. I frequently go shopping (Sainsbury's usually) with my three children aged 11, 14 and 15. They very helpfully pack everything up while I stand around looking pregnant and helpless. I have never been asked whether I was buying the wine, whiskey, etc for them. So is this some incredibly new bit of practise, brought in since the last time I bought alcohol (bottle of whiskey, last week, for a colleague of my husband's)? Or do the cashiers just look at us and decide we're not that kind of family (just imagining how horrified they'd be if they saw my angelic-looking 11 yr old drinking (very small amounts of) our wine, which she frequently does) which is laughably prejudiced? Or do they have less of a problem with underage drinking in Devon and so are less quick to react to parents shopping with their children?

As I said yesterday, the only time I've ever been challenged about age wrt buying anything was about that stupid box of matches last year, and frankly it was a ludicrous challenge.

expatinscotland · 08/06/2009 21:45

'enough with the cut & paste.make your point without copying mine.'

here a point for you: trying to dictate to others how to post is about as twattish as the cashier in the OP.

so i'll cut and paste whatever the hell i please, especially seeing as how you don't seem to like it.

expatinscotland · 08/06/2009 21:46

YANBU, mummytopebs.

scottishmummy · 08/06/2009 21:50

feeling better after the wee tizzy,you knock yourself out cutting & pasting.

get a skelf in your pinkie

LovelyTinOfSpam · 08/06/2009 21:54

Loving the idea of duchesse rocking up to checkout, heavily pg with her brood dancing around her knees, purcashing quantities of spirits

And agree with the point that then there is an elemant of looking like "that sort of person" comes in.

Duchesse clearly looks like careful uber-mum even while purchasing crate upom crate of jamesons, week after week... brilliant!

ThingOne · 08/06/2009 22:02

It is not illegal to serve your children with alcohol in your own home. In fact, it is still legal for 16 and 17 year olds to have alcohol with a meal in a restaurant.

So why the hell are the big supermarkets taking it upon themselves to refuse alcohol sales to parents shopping with teenage children? It's madness.

Nahui · 08/06/2009 22:13

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expatinscotland · 08/06/2009 22:14

'get a skelf in your pinkie '

actually, i've got swine flu. i'd rather give you that instead. THAT would make me feel much better indeed .

HerBeatitudeLittleBella · 08/06/2009 22:27

Are you the cashier Scottishmummy?

You seem to be holding up the jobsworthy power-tripping cashier as some kind of heroic figure unswayed by demanding customers.

She sounds hilarious - she belongs in a sketch show.

scottishmummy · 08/06/2009 22:36

deffo the wee cashier wummin gets my vote
like her style,no harrumphing tutting flouncing customer or any "i know the manager" swayed her

loved that she looked askance and went"nah"
heefeckinlarious

yes good for her
c'moan the wee wummin

HerBeatitudeLittleBella · 08/06/2009 22:39

But the "I know the manager" wasn't a "Do you know who I am" line, it was "you don't need to worry, you're not breaking the law by serving me" line.

I don't understand why you are so enthusiastic about someone who is obviously just being very unco-operative for the sake of it. Why is that so very praiseworthy but the OP's flounce isn't?

scottishmummy · 08/06/2009 22:40

swine flu?thats a shame.chins up.what about the weans and your man -are they ok?

scottishmummy · 08/06/2009 22:44

like the stoic under dog feel of it.cashier resisting attempts to apply pressure to change her mind.asking her manager over is certainly trying to change the outcome

anyway she legitimately applied the rules

HerBeatitudeLittleBella · 08/06/2009 22:50

Yes but I can't admire people who legitimately apply silly rules instead of using their common sense/ basic human kindness.

Although I suppose it's all in the interaction isn't it - I would be a jobsworth to piss someone off if I felt they were trying to bully me or make my life difficult. But not for a power trip.

scottishmummy · 08/06/2009 22:56

but she legitimately applied the rules.failing not to potential disciplinary or sacking

So No ID No Sale even if the manager says ooh yes ole whatsherface she over 18 and worked here serve her without relevant id

and lovin the
"I said are you joking and she said no"
Nah and no sale

it is a genuinely funny story,with the top bird being the cashier

HerBeatitudeLittleBella · 08/06/2009 23:02

But she wouldn't have been hauled up on a disciplinary unless every other manager in the shop was also a jobsworth.

I think it's really sad that people cling to "it's the rules" "we haven't got the insurance" "it's elf and safety" as an excuse to be unkind/ lazy/ unco-operative.

This sort of cashier behaviour sounds like that sort of example to me.

scottishmummy · 08/06/2009 23:10

dont read the cashier jobsworth at all she had the ultimate sanction

No sale without ID - and she used it

customer flounced off after wasting an hour of her time.to eat a take away and no beer for dh.yes that showed the cashier good and proper

bet she is quaking in the staff room.not

HerBeatitudeLittleBella · 08/06/2009 23:10

I'm sure she's not, but she doesn't sound very nice.

scottishmummy · 08/06/2009 23:15

oh they were both up for a bit of argy bargy

Cashier:nah and dirty looks
OP:i know the manager doncha know.flounces off

the OP worked in the store so knew the rules (and should have known the likliehood of challenge if no id)

MrsSchadenfreude · 08/06/2009 23:16

Absolutely barking rules. The only ID I carry is my Polish driving licence. I doubt that would be much help to anyone.

Scary - do the BSB kids still get tanked up and fall out of the Europa Cafe at the weekend?

TheYearOfTheCat · 08/06/2009 23:27

This is a very curious thread. I must say, I too, would have flounced, but only because I so clearly look over 18 (and 25) that such action by the checkout operator must surely be malicious. (Good communication can always help in these situations, and from the OP's post, it doesn't sound like she explained her position very well.)

I also find it ironic that Asda seem to be concerned about the health / morals of young people, whilst they were quite happy to scare my DD witless with some gruesome 7ft tall scary moving creepy hideous monster last October, and when I complained they responded that they couldn't see the problem, and it was a 'good seller'.

I wonder how the Single Equalities Bill could impact on this? It proposes to make it illegal to discriminate in the provision of goods and services, for a number of reasons, including age, and disability. It would also make it unlawful to discriminate by association. So the scenarios where the 70 year old woman is ID'd for buying alcohol would become illegal, as would the discrimination against adults buying alcohol accompanied by their teenage (and even 2 yr old!!) children.

I would like to see any supermarket trying to currently justify their decision not to serve a person who has a disability and is being assisted by their teenage child. Regardless of any 'retail initiatives' this would be unlawful under the Disability Discrimination Act.

GodzillasBumcheek · 08/06/2009 23:27

So am i not legally allowed to buy alcohol then (or not in that shop anyway), as i do not own ID?

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