to dread a Conservative govenment?

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As a teacher and mother I feel I should dread Conservatives getting in.....

I am from a working class family who always voted Labour & i myself have always voted labour also.I am a great believer in looking after the poorer people in our country but i think it has gone too far now with some people not wanting to work or provide for their families as they know they will be amply provided for by the govt.

I think it would be good for a change of Govt,as a mother with a ds who is starting pre school this Sept i look forward to a Tory govt.

The way i look at things,the only way is up now surely

Meant to add i will be voting conv in the next election.

Im not sure who i want in charge - i dont think Labour has done us any favours at all - if they hadnt spent sooooo much money and borrowed up to the hilt then this recession would not be as bad.

EMA - scrap it - the govt have introduced it so that kids stay on at college - great if they have potential but some of them would be better of getting jobs - apprentices etc (but of course largely done away with)the other reason EMA was instroduced along with raising compulsory school leaving age was so that the unemployment figures arent as bad - obviously those kids cant claim benefits they are getting EMA instead.

Labour has not improved education - it has restricted it - they have tightened the curriculum - children have to do certain things at certain times - what happened to following the needs or interests of a class and individual children - the curriculum does not encourage childrent o think for themselves - it teaches them to do what they are told - what use is that for the future of our children.

God knows the answer - they are all useless, arrogant and spend their time cheating the tax payer or squabbling - bloody kids

maybe it would help to actually read the Tory policies instead of just moan about what you think might happen?

FAMILY POLICIES

Financial help:

• Money worries can put a huge strain on relationships ? so we will end the couple penalty in the benefits system and recognise marriage in the tax and benefits system

Flexibility:

• We will introduce a new system of flexible parental leave which gives mothers and fathers 12 months' leave to split between them
• We will extend the right to request flexible working to all parents with children under the age of 18, and ensure the public sector becomes a world leader in providing flexible working opportunities

Support:

• We are committed to introducing a universal home health visiting service to help families through the challenges that come with a new child. The number of health visitors will be raised by 4,200 - and new mothers will be provided with a guaranteed level of support for the first five years
• We will support a diverse childcare system, with parents' needs met by a variety of providers, including childminders and private, voluntary and independent nurseries

goodnightmoon....from what i've seen MN is mainly labour/libdem/greens.....

give up.

• Money worries can put a huge strain on relationships ? so we will end the couple penalty in the benefits system and recognise marriage in the tax and benefits system I I am looking forward to marriage being recognised.

what an interesting thread....can't say I am much clearer...but that is because politics simply seem to go over my head....and because of that I find it difficult to know what is true and what isn't...

I suppose time will tell...and whatever will be will be....

OP Are you dreading it on heresay from the past- or on what is being said now?

good night moon, those don't sound to bad at all...

sorry- typo- hearsay

fairladyrantalot;

don't make political decisions based on a few posts off mumsnet..(they only copy and paste from google...any idiot could do that)...if you are unsure...do your own research!

I would....but...I don't think I can vote anyway...think I was only able to vote for in the european ones....
I am german....(dh is english)....but I do get confused in which elections I can and can't vote...
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I suppose the only party I truely would think would be the worst ever to come into power would be the BNP and any party that has values along those lines...possibly exactly because of my origines...

FLRAL- if you are registered on the electoral roll, then surely you are sent polling cards which are in accordance with your eligibility to vote?

yes howto...I am...but can't remember right now...what I got through...honest, I am a political airhead....

don't worry about the BNP...they do well in certain parts of the UK...but they will never be a major political threat...if they started to get too big...they would be crushed.

edamBenefits dependency is a problem, and it started with Thatcher's destruction of working class communities and jobs.

The Tories did not destroy communities- the free market ended mining, and their union's outdated practices. Otherwise it would have been propped up by the tax payer forever as a nationlised industry.

There is no one sector of society that deserves a free ride, if they cannot compete in a free market economy.

Redundant miners did very well with huge payouts and good pensions- i know, I was brought up in a working class mining village, and went to school with many miner's kids. Their families ended better off than my father, who worked in the ship yards for years, then got a degree at night classes over 7 years, after a 12 hr day in the shipyards.

I think one of the problems today is that people in their 30s are simply not aware of how benefits have increased so much, compared with 20, 30 or 40 years ago, and how people have become dependent on benefits.

Whilst I agree 100% that their should be a safety net for the really poor, or the disbaled, the system now is out of control,a nd if the Tories cut back, putting money where it is really needed, all well and good.

Someguy-the unemployed may have got 80% off poll tax but PENSIONERS paid full so too did full time mums I should know I remember my p[oor grandmother coppering up out of her dead husbands miners pension.
I also had to pay it even though I lived at home-working admittedly. Point being I was poorer even working full time under the tories.

You are wrong about miras- It was eroded before 2000 I worked for a bank dealing with mortgages at the time _long before 2000- true labour might have finished it off. By 2000 I had packed in work as having to pay full childcare costs from my wages after tax, ensured that my dh and I were virtually no better off working than staying at home looking after my children myself.

Re Arthur Scargill-the man is an idiot-I nearlly freaked out when I saw his name on my local candidate list.
He is the stuff of nightmares.

I'm another that would like to see the conservatives in charge. I dont deny that labour have made a few good changes but they have also spent far too much and we are going to be in debt as a country for generations. Nothing was put aside during the boom years.

We dont have true child poverty in this country so labour playing on that aspect is just a political ploy.

We have become a benefits nation, one where you can choose not to work and the state will provide a house and money. Hopefully any new government will start to bring pride back into the country and hopefully the work ethic. Traditional familes are penalised under this government, I hope any new government ensures all people are treated the same.

YANBU
I have a bottle of champagne for celebrating when Thatcher pops her clogs

As for policies and manifestos, people can promise the earth but what they deliver is a diferent matter.

I do think cameron is telling us all what we want to hear. Once they are voted in, then it will be a different story.
Be afraid, be very afraid.

actually, purepurple, that seems to be a sad fact, really...and that is something, that even my non-political mind thinks needs changing...they should be made to do what they said they do

closing the mines didn't just result in a few men losing jobs...whole towns/villages were destroyed....and have never recovered....she crushed the unions..which was always her aim.

the tories then imported cheap coal from poland to help their miners...

i wouldn't trust a torie with my library card.

I'm not a natural Tory. I come from a staunchly Labour background and I truly support some of their older policies - the type of policies that we would have seen under John Smith, for example.

However, I have no time whatsoever for New Labour and I really despised Tony Blair. I thought Gordon Brown might be a bit better but so far I'm not impressed.

From a purely selfish POV, I'll be voting Tory because I think that Cameron will deliver and I think we need a change. Whether he lives up to the hype, we'll have to see.

I'm an army wife and Cameron has promised more help for the Forces and their families. I'm all for that.

daftpunk- okay tell me your better solution- to buy British coal, even if it meant we had less money for benefits?

To support inefficient, outdated working practices?

For EVER?

At what point would you stop, and say enough is enough?

You don't need teach me about dead mining towns- my parents live in one. But what was the alternative? to keep pouring our money into an industry that was not efficient and dependent on the state? Generation after generation?

Ther was always work outside the pits- but you had to look for it. I went to school with about 60% of kids whos e fathers worked in the mines- but they didn't want to go down them. Through education, they were able to escape the mines and find other work.

They also had to understand, like I did, that work was not always avaibale on your doorstep as some kind of "right" and be prepared to relocate.

But this is all in the past- it is what is happening now that's the issue.

howtotellmum;

the tories closing the mines wasn't an economic decision..it was a political one brought about to crush the unions...anyone with an iota of political savvy knows that...i agree that scargill became his own worst enemy....they could have won if he'd calmed down a bit...

you're talking to a leftie socialist here.... so shall we move on from the destruction of half of yorkshire to the poll tax riots??