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To have turned around and walked out of this cafe?

38 replies

LolaTheShowgirl · 02/05/2009 20:19

After dropping someone off at the airport, my friend and I decided to stop off in Manchester to pass some time til the bus home came. It was 7am in the morning. We decided to go for breakfast. We went into the first cafe we came to and was making subtle faces as we queued to place our order as it was a bit shabby, holes in the seats and it looks dirty even. I was about to suggest we find another place, when I looked over in the corner and saw a man and a woman totally out of it on heroin. They were both totally hunched over, looked totally out of this world, like I cannot describe. I cannot believe the cafe owner would have them sit there like that in his cafe. It was such a scary sight, I just grabbed my friend and pulled her out of the cafe.

OP posts:
Jaquelinehyde · 02/05/2009 20:22

How do you know it was heroin? Was the needle still in the arm?

I would have left before I saw that to be honest.

Original poster
LolaTheShowgirl · 02/05/2009 20:23

You can just tell, can't you? No one gets that off their face on anything else. They had that same gaunt look that heroin users have.

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fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 02/05/2009 20:27

i don't think people out of it on heroin are fit to do you any harm,tbh. It doesn't sound v salubrious though.
YANBU to leave

thisisyesterday · 02/05/2009 20:29

can youi? i don't think i'd be able to tell, tbh.

i wouldn't have gone soemwhere that looked dirty anyway, but just because someone looked gaunt and was hunched over doesn't mean they were on heroin

LadyAga · 02/05/2009 20:34

maybe they'd just sampled the cuisine

BigBellasBeerBelly · 02/05/2009 20:38

ROFL aga

Maybe the cafe owner gets a lot of his trade through people meeting to buy etc. And by the sounds of the place he's not exactly running a great business. Maybe the cafe owner is a supplier and the cafe is just somewhere for cover?

My friend used to buy weed from KFC! You never know...

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 02/05/2009 20:42

I live in Edinburgh and sadly see heroin addicts nearly every day..and you CAN tell by looking at them.

It's a bit disturbing that you would find two of them a scary sight and I wouldn't bat an eyelid, doesn't say much for this city

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 02/05/2009 20:43

I also must point out that any patients we have at work (I work for a dentist) who are heroin addicts have been the most sweet and polite people, it really surprised me, I have to admit, and changed my views.

BigBellasBeerBelly · 02/05/2009 20:46

The thing with herion addiction is that weird papery skin thing they get.

Fanjo I have known a few heroin addicts socially (don't ask!) and they are, of course, the same as anyone else in that some are nice and some are nasty.

the difference being i suppose that many end up turning to crime etc for the money to buy it. it's so sad.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 02/05/2009 20:53

Yes, I think they were just extra polite to me at work as they are aware of the stigma surrounding them and ashamed, that was the impression I got.

Anyway it made me less judgy of them and more sad for them.

BigBellasBeerBelly · 02/05/2009 20:56

TBH I think it can happen to anyone, a descent into addiction, and i feel sorry for anyone who ends up on that path.

Not sorry for the things they sometimes do because of it, though.

Did you hear that thing that if we gave heroin on prescription to addicts, the crime levels would immediately drop by a ridiculously massive amount? But the govt would never do it because it doesn't tie in with "tough" policies.

FabulousBakerGirl · 02/05/2009 21:09

Lola - you seem to have such dramatic experiences.

iwanttolearn · 02/05/2009 21:18

LOL at Aga, and yes I would have left.

BigBellasBeerBelly · 02/05/2009 21:25

ROFL @ bakergirl idea of dramatic...

Lola went into a caff. It was manky and had disreputable looking clientelle. So she left.

Greensneeze · 02/05/2009 21:26

dramatic??!? A greasy spoon with a couple of smackheads lolling on one of the tables?

you need to get out more

BigBellasBeerBelly · 02/05/2009 21:59

Can you tell it was me and greensneeze that were sitting at the table in lola's caff?

Greensneeze · 02/05/2009 21:59

you promised you wouldn't tell anyone!

that's the last time I let you borrow my tourniquet...

fishie · 02/05/2009 22:02

all station cafes are rough. ditto pubs. lesson learned.

BigBellasBeerBelly · 02/05/2009 22:03

Sorry greensneeze...

SerendipitousHarlot · 02/05/2009 22:36

LOL at you two

SnortyBartFast · 02/05/2009 22:49

but isnt Methadone a heroin substitute?
to the poster who mentioned prescriptions?

BigBellasBeerBelly · 02/05/2009 23:02

Yes methadone is a substitute, but it doesn't have the same effect. It takes the edge off the craving but doesn't give the same "high" which is of course what most addicts are after.

A bit like giving a hardened alcoholic some ginger beer and then wondering why he's sneaked out for a bottle of vodka.

SerendipitousHarlot · 02/05/2009 23:08

Hahahahaha you are making me laugh tonight BigBella

BigBellasBeerBelly · 02/05/2009 23:18

harlot

FabulousBakerGirl · 03/05/2009 18:39

ROFL @ bakergirl idea of dramatic...

Lola went into a caff. It was manky and had disreputable looking clientelle. So she left.

I just mean she never seems to have a quiet life in anything....

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