to start a new P+T parking thread with a great link

[JackBauerkillspigs]

here

Front page of my local paper

In my tescos, there is a picture of a buggy by the P&T spaces so I think it would be obvious that having a 9yo is not a good enough reason to use the spaces there. Can't believe she went to the papers though! Making herself look a bit silly, although £70 is a bit steep.

The fine is not set by tesco, it is set by the car parking company. they run another car park in swansea that I got fined in as it is 'private' but the sign saying this was 7 foot up a lamppost hidden by leaves so I wrote to them with pictures.
I think it works that reading teh signs means you have entered into a contract but as I could not have read the sign then I did not enter the contract and so woudl not pay. I heard nothing back. They have moved the sign!

surely P&T implies parent and toddler? 9 years old is not a toddler. £70 is steep but she was chancing her arm me thinks.

yep it was me. couldn't resist it.

I'm a bit at people on that website suggesting people with disabilities shouldn't use P&T if there are no disabled spaces. Surely people with disabilities come first!

I agree, juney - that seems sensible as a general rule, though of course one can think up situations in which a specific parent's needs could be greater than those of a specific disabled person.

And wrt the Parent and Toddler spaces being obviously for toddlers not 9-year-olds, I'm pretty sure that these spaces are still not always labelled parent and toddler, but can still be labelled Parent and Child - and if that were the case for the lady in the article, well - a 9-year-old is clearly still a child.

I'm going to be looking whenever I see P&T spaces to see how many are clearly labelled as being for parents with toddlers, and how many are less clearly labelled.

Let's not forget too, that Parent and Toddler doesn't cover all those who could use such spaces with justification - a grandma out with her grandchild, someone with a friend's toddler, a parent with a non-mobile baby - all of these can be said to fall outwith the narrow catagory of a Parent with a Toddler, but would still be most ble to use these spaces, imo!!