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Well I am but is it just me or is this verging on just wanting more publicity?

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mamadiva · 01/04/2009 11:51

In one of the daily rags today it stated that Jade Goody has made a photo album with letters and things in to help her sons remember the best times, then it says it's going to be released publically to raise money for cancer charities.

Now I know that is a good thing blah de blah but surely the fact that it was for her sons to remember her by and that there are letters directly written for them surely it should be the one thing that should be kept private for them to cherish?

At the end of the day there is a book coming out and her clothes are being auctioned to raise money so surely this one little thing could be the boys memories and not the publics.

I know I am being unreasonable because it has nothing at all to do with me but those poor boys deserve some sort of privacy to remember their mum.

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pollycazalet · 01/04/2009 12:21

Very difficult to see how anyone can now argue that those boys have a right to privacy of any kind. I hope their family thinks that it's all worth it.

I read today that their father is taking them to Australia for a holiday, presumably to avoid the funeral and any more mawkish 'her brave boys' photo-opps.

wannaBe · 01/04/2009 12:24

And the mother's day cards they made for her are in the book as well?

I really don't think this is right.

And I think it might possibly even be damaging to the memory those children have of their mother as they grow up and realize tht she turned them into public property, just as she was.

Ronaldinhio · 01/04/2009 12:27

ever think that this isn't the stuff she left for her boys actually just some stuff cobbled together to raise money for charity in her name and with her blessing and that she left her truly private hopes wishes and dreams for her boys at home privately for them

mamadiva · 01/04/2009 12:30

I hope that is what this is Ronaldinhio I really do.

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Ronaldinhio · 01/04/2009 12:45

me too mamadiva

seeker · 01/04/2009 12:56

Why don't they just donate some of the money she raised in the last few months of her life to charity instead?

Oh, and could somebody PLEASE tell me what the woman did that anybody could possibly say they 'admire" her?

mayorquimby · 01/04/2009 13:08

"Who the fuck is going to buy a photo album of Jade with personal letters to her children? "

the e4 and living tv demographic

mamadiva · 01/04/2009 13:11

Seeker I was not a fan of Jade's but I admire the way she went about her last few months trying to ensure her children had a good future and her bravery, how can you not admire her for that?

Same as I admire every other person out there who tries their hardest to cope with such a horrible disease.

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mayorquimby · 01/04/2009 13:17

"Seeker I was not a fan of Jade's but I admire the way she went about her last few months trying to ensure her children had a good future and her bravery, how can you not admire her for that?"

well alot of people (myself included) don't believe the official line of "it's all for my boys", i personally believe it was all self publicity so very little to admire there.
i feel sympathy for anyone goes through such a terrible disease, but not admiration.
and that's speaking as the child of a cancer survivor.i don't feel any great admiration for my mother coming through cancer as it was not something she decided to go through, it was something put upon her.and any admiration would insinuate that i thought other people who didn't survive or those who couldn't cope where somehow to blame, when in reality i think it's down to luck.

seeker · 01/04/2009 13:22

Her children have a father who is perfectly capable of providing for them. How much money do they need?

And how much will compensate those two little boys for the fact that every time they reflect on their mother they will see the media circus she organized?

wannaBe · 01/04/2009 13:23

I don't admire her for that at all. In fact i think less of her because of the way in which she lived her final months, trying to make money rather than spending it with her children.

I think it's tragic that anyone can die of such a horrible illness and I feel for them and the friends and family they left behind.

But Jade already had millions. Far more than most of us will ever earn in a lifetime. And her children have a father who earns a decent living and is capable of supporting them financially.

She didn't need to sell her final weeks to the media, her children don't need all that money.

So shoot me.

mamadiva · 01/04/2009 13:25

Agreed with you there on the 'official line' Quimby there are times I wonder about it but as has been shown apparently we have to shut up and respect her wishes as she is dead, shame no one is thinking about respecting her boys though I would've assumed as they have been the point of all the publicity that they would've been the priority after she died but it seems not.

I do still admir eher courage though and I always will admire people who have come across such tragedy because I think I would just crumble under the strain if it were me but I'd like to think I'd be able to do what Jade has done and have the strength and courage to ensure a better future as I ahve said.

Only thing is yes that was her priority at the time (as far as we know) but was it her family's motivation? Probably not, I am waiting for the endless stream of books, photoshoots mag deals and Tv appearances that are bound to follow suit from what is essentially a low life creep of a 'husband' and a junkie mother.

After all before all this that's what they were so why does that change now.

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blondie80 · 01/04/2009 13:26

what i admire about jade is that she has got through to so many young girls about the importance of going for regular smears, in turn probably saving many from going through what she has.

mamadiva · 01/04/2009 13:28

Wannabe thats not what I was saying I was just answering your question.

As someone said earlier Jade did not care about privacy she cared about raising money (or something to that effect) sadly it seems the money was worth more than her childrens future.

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jennieflower · 01/04/2009 13:31

I wasn't a huge fan of Jade but her death has raised awareness, thousands of women (myself included) have been prompted into booking long overdue smear tests as a direct result of the publicity surrounding her illness. That legacy alone is worth more than any money she could have given to Cancer charities.

seeker · 01/04/2009 13:33

I may have missed it, but I didn't hear her saying anything about how important it was to go for smear tests. Or to go for follow up tests if something abnormal is found. And (so shoot me) I'm not sure whether encouraging lots of very young women to go for smear tests is a particularly good idea. Cervical cancer is incredibly rare in very young women.

mamadiva · 01/04/2009 13:33

I was the same Jennie because of her story I went for a smear actually must phone about results...

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angelene · 01/04/2009 13:34

Anna - what makes you think that you require an enormous amount of money to provide 'a good education'?

mamadiva · 01/04/2009 13:35

But it does happen Seeker.

It probably encouraged a lot of older women too so how can it possibly be bad thing?

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pollycazalet · 01/04/2009 13:42

Well, the Jade Effect has happened by default hasn't it - ie that we know that she had cancer and the fear that you can have that form of cancer at that age and it be terminal has driven more people to have smears. While regular smears are important, it's not the lack of one which was an issue with Jade, it was that fact she repeatedly ignored the results until she had proper symptoms of something being wrong. And she ddin't realy campaign about it (and why would she, poor woman was dying).

I agree with Quimby - I have utter sympathy for anyone with this terrible disease but to admire someone for having cancer - there is no choice in it and people have to deal with it as they can. Perpetuating the stereotype of heroic individuals 'battling' with cancer is not really helpful (speaking as someone whose mother and good friend are cancer survivors).

Peachy · 01/04/2009 13:45

Ronadinhios post was exactly what I was thinking.

And its probably what I would do in all hohesty.

the thing is to have the private 'second sey' it needs to be private.

So nobody knows.

And that's it really isn't it? It all becomes a speculative

Sassybeast · 01/04/2009 13:47

Jade did not campaign for 'anything'. She did not raise awareness of cervical smears by her own actions - she wasn't oblidged to and she didn't have to. It happened by default and whilst that is positive, I think it's bit of an insult to those who have battled to raise funds and awarness of cancer (Jane Tomlinson springs to mind) Please stop painting Jade as some sort of pioneering crusader for cervical cancer screening. I hope the effects of her battle will last - but I suspect that the fickle public will soon forget and move on to the next 'big thing'

And anyone who buys a book of her private memories for her children is sick.

Peachy · 01/04/2009 13:48

Actually Polly there was a big rally in favour of lowering the smear age; she was due toattend but had to send apols as was too ill.

That sounds like active support.

It made me have a smear, I was not ignorant of cervical cancer: nursing backround and also worked for Macmillan in fundraising, how could I be unaware? But its easy t put things out of your head when you lead a busy life, find excuises, just not really think about things and then a whole month / week / year has slipped away

blondie80 · 01/04/2009 13:50

polly,

maybe i have got it wrong, but i'm sure jade was not a qualified medical professional, so to say she ignored results is ludicris, obviously her doctor did not explain to her the importance of her results.

mayorquimby · 01/04/2009 13:51

exactly jade didn't set out to raise cancer awareness. she got cancer and because she was in the media it's profile was raised and more women got screened.
unfrtunately a reality tv celeb getting cancer has more effect on most people than a leading scientist or medical practitioner stressing the importance of smearing or even someones local gp. so while it is probably the one positive byproduct from the tragedy of a young mum dying of cancer, once again i feel people are trying to attribute actions to jade which weren't really hers.
i'm not trying to slate her, i'm ust trying to be realistic, she never set out to become a spokes person for cancer smears, just her circumstances and the media attention it recieved caused a natural rise in awareness.