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To not want the school to educate my child that disabled people did something bad in a past life?

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Kimi · 28/03/2009 16:43

DS1 age 12 came home a bit miffed that while learning about the Hindu faith the teacher said people who lived a bad life came back as something bad like a snake or where given a disability .

Fair enough if this is what those of the Hindu faith want to believe then so be it but I think it is something that needed a deeper discussion as to the whys and hows, not just put out there.

I really feel like having a chat with the school would that be unreasonable?

OP posts:
Phoenix4725 · 01/04/2009 03:53

hmm i go for the heaven dont want me and hells afraid of me approach .

But i would have serious problems if any of my dc came home and been told same as op without it being more discussed and honestly think could been handled better a simple that they believ in reincarnation without using the disabled as others said some small mined kids will use that line at school

2shoes · 01/04/2009 10:30

i can only assume the people who think that this kind of lesson is ok, has never had a child in tears because the lovely kids at his school call his adored sister a spaz.
god alones knows what they would have done with this.

FairLadyRantALot · 01/04/2009 10:45

2shoes, those Kids were awful, but I doubt that a discussion in RE about Hindu and their believes would have had any impact on it....sadly....people/Kids can be cruel

2shoes · 01/04/2009 10:55

oh they would have.

onagar · 01/04/2009 13:56

I've been saying for years that just because it's part of someone's religion does not make it right or acceptable. Nearly everyone takes the opposite view.

FairLadyRantALot · 01/04/2009 14:48

it is not about the view a religion holds is right or acceptable....but, I suppose if it is a part of it , it needs to be taught...of course would be good if also a discussion about the right and wrong would be ensue...but not sure how realistic that is...

2shoes · 01/04/2009 15:16

FairLadyRantALot but look how hard it is for use to discuss it....
tnen imagine it with 12 year olds.
sadly there will always be a few who will use this kind of stuff in a neagative way.

duchesse · 01/04/2009 15:27

He's learning about other religions, not being indoctrinated to believe this arguably outdated concept. The whole point of RE classes is to challenge people's beliefs and get them thinking about how other people view the world. At 12 your son is easily old enough to decide whether he thinks that what he's learned is a valid or an outdated concept.

FairLadyOfMuslinCloth · 01/04/2009 15:49

2shoes...there will always be some...but is that reason enough to withold facts?

PeachyLikesHerChoccyRabbit · 01/04/2009 15:59

I did post on the other thread that this is a slightly misguided idea of what Hinduism teahces as I did some study on thsi very subject (well it was natural to me).

But then how many RE teachers have done several Hinduism modules? there's always going to be a gap (NOT saying its OK- trying to understand).

The actual, deep Hindu belief is more like the different incarnations cause you to rebalance things that were out of sinc in your past life: so for exampkle if you were dependent your next life might be one where you were forced to be very independent. But there is no implication of disability as such being evil* and it must re,mebered that if anyone were really lacking they'd be born non human, and if anyone were really fab they'd be born in INdia in a position to take on a role of renunciation.

  • Just because its not the academic Hinduism doesn't mean there aren't Hindu's that believe it; equally that si true wihth any faith though. The classic example is the belief that Muslims hate Non - Muslims yet teh Quran refers to the people of the book.
FairLadyOfMuslinCloth · 01/04/2009 16:08

Peachy...on a lighter note on this re-incarnation- issue...we got to talk about re-incarnation with some colleages (sp?)...well..at my Placement...and started to ponder the possibility of coming back as an animal, and whilst coming back as a spoiled pet might be nice, it would possibly be more likely to come back as a battery hen...that idea tickled us (although, of course the idea of battery hens is not funny as such....)

PeachyLikesHerChoccyRabbit · 01/04/2009 16:11

LOL (sorta, poor hens)- DS1 always says he;d like to come back as a cat but knowing his luck it'd be a mangy unloved stray that managed to drag its pathetic existence on for at elast two decades (and so not getting reborn again LOL for ages)

FairLadyOfMuslinCloth · 01/04/2009 16:14

lol Peachy...I actually wouldn't mind to come back as my Educators (at Placement)little dog, her dogs is treated better than my Kids

PeachyLikesHerChoccyRabbit · 01/04/2009 16:17

I could come back as MILs dof who is spoiled but if it means living with MIL I am taking up Atheism and hoping I rot

FairLadyOfMuslinCloth · 01/04/2009 16:24

rofl

SamsMama · 01/04/2009 16:38

LOL Peachy! It's odd- and I know this is not what the thread is about, so I apologize- but when I was little I would go to my mom and tell her "I forget my name before. Do you remember it?" and she would say, "Oh, silly, you've always been Megan." I would get really upset and tell her, "No, BEFORE, I remember BEFORE." She said it secretly freaked her out a little. I don't actually believe in reincarnation BUT...I DO remember being little and swearing that I remembered "before." Interesting.

But as everyone else said, in regards to the actual question here, it depends on how it was said. If the teacher said it as fact YANBU, but if he/she was just explaining the belief of a different faith then YABU (just in my opinion of course!)

PeachyLikesHerChoccyRabbit · 01/04/2009 17:58

TBH there is so much in Hinduism that teacher could have easily skipped that bit and found any of a hundred other things to focus on.

DS3 tells me about Mum 1 and Mum 2 (Mum 1 beat him apparently ) and the houses where he used to live / previous schools (his current and next ones are 3 and 4) but his ASD means I can't get any mroe detail from him so don't know for sure what he means, he doesn't really 'do' coversations

PeachyLikesHerChoccyRabbit · 01/04/2009 17:58

I'm Mum 3 BTW, but he only ever had one Dad

KimiWantsAnEasterEgg · 03/04/2009 10:03

DS1 had more RS yesterday and he ask the teacher if they could discuss it in more depth, teacher explained a lot more (DS1 had already looked at some website) and had a chat to one of our Hindu friends)

DS1 while liking to learn about other faiths knows they are to be taken with a pinch of salt, He does now want to get some insents now though. They also did a lot about the festival of light.

2shoes there have been a few kids saying stupid thing to some of the SN kids since this was first brought up, although DS1s take on it all is he has to put up with a whole lot of stupid from a long line of ugly

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