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to be annoyed at dog owner's attitude?

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TaleofTwoCities · 27/03/2009 20:45

I was in the playing field today on the way over to the playground with ds 4 and dd2. I was watching ds who had gone ahead on his scooter and when I looked around at dd who was a few feet behind me she was being nearly knocked over by a young labrador type dog who was trying to lick her.

Now I don't mind dogs (despite being more of a cat person ) but I was annoyed at the attitude of the owner who arrived on the scene shortly afterwards. Instead of reprimanding the dog (who had clearly rushed at my dd, rather than me) he said 'oh isn't she used to dogs?' I said 'well not ones that nearly knock her over no'. He then proceeded to try and get her to stroke the dog and make friends with it.

Honestly, I would be worried if my dog were making a beeline for toddlers, however friendly intentioned. Just lucky for us that dd is fairly laid back and unlikely to develop a dog phobia. By the time the man had finished talking to us, I looked round and ds had disappeared! Luckily he was in the playground....it's a lesson to me anyway, to be more alert to dogs when I'm in dog walking territory!

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Haribosmummy · 28/03/2009 08:06

I, personally, don't mind cats killing wildife... Yes, it's nature and not really that different to alot of terrier type dogs who will chase mice and rabbits.

But, I still don't like finding my neighbours cat on my car and, worse still, my bed [boak emoticon]

I appreciate that people don't want to be covered in brown dog hairs from my dog but would equally like my neighbours to understand I don't wish to covered in white cat hairs.

There are loads of places you can go out of the way of kids!! I manage it everyday!

PuppyMonkey · 28/03/2009 08:07

"Why, WHY don't people teach their children never to run from a dog?"

Why WHY don't people teach their dogs never to run after children?

FfreckleFface · 28/03/2009 08:23

WITW You're right, it was uncalled for, especially since I have made clear in my posts that I always keep my dogs leaded whenever there are children about, even if we are out on what is locally known to be an acceptable place to let dogs run free.

But apology accepted. It is an emotive subject, and all I have been trying to do is put across the view that sometimes dog owners are made to feel that they have no right to exercise their dogs in public places.

I completely agree with what scienceteacher and OrmIrian say. Even when you are being at your most responsible, and letting your dogs free only where you believe it is safe, children do sometimes pop up, and because of the way that some parents and children react to loose dogs, this means that the walk must be cut short and two dogs put back on their leads.

PuppyMonkey I have taught my dogs not to chase children. However, in the same way that it is difficult to stop a child from running away from a dog when they are scared, it is sometimes difficult to stop an excited dog, who has been playing with and chasing other dogs, chasing a running child who they think is part of the game. I acknowledge that a small percentage of the time, maybe my dogs wouldn't respond to recall in this situation, and as a result, they go on a lead whenever we see children.

As Haribosmummy says, it is all about compromise.

(And on the cat subject, OrmIrian, definitely hve a strong word . We clearly have the bravest cat in the world living locally, because very day when I poo-patrol our garden, I find little piles of cat poo too. Clearly this is the Chuck Norris of the cat world, willing to poo in the garden of two rotties.)

sarah293 · 28/03/2009 08:23

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FfreckleFface · 28/03/2009 08:27

Riven, obviously your situation is different. FWIW, and I know that I can't speak for all dog owners, but mine would never approach a wheelchair in the same way that they wouldn't aproach a buggy, and wouldn't have the opportunity anyway.

sarah293 · 28/03/2009 08:30

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LEMAGAIN · 28/03/2009 08:33

There is absolutely a responsibility on parents to teach their children how to be safe around dogs. Whether that is there own dogs or other dogs they might meet. Children should know not to run up to strange dogs, not to smother strange dogs (the amount of children who used to come up to my rotties and cuddle their heads, without checking with me first if it was ok to stroke them!). Yes, they should know not to run away from dogs to, by learning that dogs are friendly animals that wont hurt them, generally. Im puzzled by the attitude that parents shouldn't educate their children on how to be around dogs, especially if they frequent high dog population places, like the parks etc. We don't take the attitude of, well, cars are the dangerous things so im not teaching my child becuase the onus is on car drivers to drive safely or not have accidents.

MOST dog owners are responsible and have their dogs under control. Some of us have annoying little Jack russels who get over excited too!! OF COURSE the ultimate responsibility is on the dog owner - that goes without saying, to keep the dog under control, be that on the lead or with excellent recall. However, as a child owner i would never assume this as there are some idiot owners out there.

LEMAGAIN · 28/03/2009 08:34

next time i use "there" inappropriately, will someone please shoot me!!!!

FfreckleFface · 28/03/2009 08:36

Well said, LEM. (And I shall scour your posts for misused 'there' and return them marked in red pen if you wish!) Are you feeling better today?

LEMAGAIN · 28/03/2009 08:37

I think that is really sad riven. I don't have a big park where we are, we have a beach and woods and they are both far more suitable places to let my dog run free. I wouldn't let my dog off the lead in the park actually and am surprised this is allowed tbh. Greenwich park has a dog free zone, both in the garden bit and obviously in the childrens play area - other than that, the dogs run free - i am a tad about this, as surely there is enough space there to have a section that is specifically for dogs to be loose whilst the rest of the park is either dog free or dogs on leads only. It seems to make sense.

LEMAGAIN · 28/03/2009 08:37

you know what Ffreckle - only slightly!! I really am going on the wagon!

tessofthedurbervilles · 28/03/2009 08:38

My dog is a classic over friendly with kids thing. I would never let a dog within a mile of free roaming kids if I thought for a second she would do anything. That said I just avoid the situation completely and only walk my dog away from kids as its not worth the look of disapproval on the parents' faces and the stress of the situation all round.

expatinscotland · 28/03/2009 08:40

I think ALL dogs should be kept on leads when outside. If they need to run, then the owner runs with them on the lead or doesn't keep the dog.

And that they should bring back park wardens and hire more environmental wardens so that any litter lout or person who doesn't pick up their dog's poo gets an on the spot £500 fine.

With rights come responsibilities.

LEMAGAIN · 28/03/2009 08:41

Ffreckle, did you hear about my rotty debacle? DP bought home a 5m pup, a "surprise". It was a bag of nerves having never set foot in a house - unfortunately i had no choice but to send it back - DP was in the doghouse that week i can tell you

LEMAGAIN · 28/03/2009 08:42

expat, that is OTT - i am lucky enough to live in an area where it is possible to walk dogs off lead without causing other people any inconvenience.

expatinscotland · 28/03/2009 08:42

he.brought.home.a.rotty?

LEMAGAIN · 28/03/2009 08:44

I always thought it was a £1000 fine - it just doesn't seem to be enforced. I think an actual dog warden has to witness an owner not picking up. I think that is the problem. I have also, and im not joking, seen people pretend to pick up their dogs poo!! Go through the motions but not actually dirty their hands as such.

expatinscotland · 28/03/2009 08:44

I don't think it's OTT at all. That's the practice in some other countries. In the city of Denver, that's the law. The council has two 'off lead' parks. You want to go elsewhere with your dog, you go with it on a lead.

The bylaws were actually passed not because of dog/people issues, but after a number of very sad instances in which larger dogs off lead attacked and mauled to death smaller dogs in public parks.

And £500 fine for any litter lout - be it a chip wrapper, gum, a cigarette end or dog poo.

LEMAGAIN · 28/03/2009 08:46

yes expat he did, which isn't a crime in itself, but without telling me, without following our golden rule of puppy choosing, pup must be raised in a house, pref with children. NOT from an outside breeder and on the spur of the moment - believe me, he had some grovelling to do. Shame really because i would like to get another rotty one day, but now he said he never will - hey ho. By one day i mean, when DD is quite a bit older!

expatinscotland · 28/03/2009 08:46

I think they should be able to issue fines from CCTV footage if it's possible.

Don't like it then bin it.

FIL's dog was mauled by an Akita in a park in a posh part of Edinburgh, and he ended up having to threaten to take the Akita's owner to small claims court to recover the cost of Toby's treatment .

sarah293 · 28/03/2009 08:53

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Littlepurpleprincess · 28/03/2009 08:54

The bylaws were actually passed not because of dog/people issues, but after a number of very sad instances in which larger dogs off lead attacked and mauled to death smaller dogs in public parks

My childminder's son was bit by a dog in a park. He ripped the muscle completely out of his leg! If some countires have laws to protect thier smaller dogs, why can't we have laws to protect our CHILDREN from big dogs?

parsley3 · 28/03/2009 09:25

Just wanted to say I agree with you Ffreckle and yes I am a responsible dog owner.I always pick up my dogs poo and don't let my dog jump up /chase children/go into play areas.(One of the reasons I got my dog was to get my children over an irrational fear of even the most placid dogs on leads and how to react if they are approached by a dog).

parsley3 · 28/03/2009 09:33

BTW OP YANBU. You were worried about your child, that's understandable.

StewieGriffinsMom · 28/03/2009 09:38

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