AIBU: to feel slightly smug/happy/justified that double buggy trumped a "mobility scooter"?

[Woollymummy]

A certain lady on our bus route has landed some of our bus drivers in trouble for having defended my right as a fare-paying passenger to keep my double buggy intact with sleeping toddler and non-walking baby inside, rather than have them turned out so she can take "her rightful place" in the wheelchair space. she has not got a wheelchair. she has a mobility/pavement transporter thing which she can get in and out of herself, and also has a huge vendetta against any pushcahir owning person who dares to get in her way. I have folded up for her before, pregant, with two kids, sleeping/awake etc, getting a thankyou while the driver gets a snappy remark or vice versa. Today I refused to fold because the bus driver told her he had a letter refuting her claim to the pushchair space. She backed down, I returned to my seat feeling smug/thankful/guilty. I want to feel happy about this outcome - is that wrong?

Seriously though, how do you go to toilet when you are out and about with a double buggy?

I think what DWP with trying to say was that having a buggy is a hindrance... But that's the point of it really, its a hindrance not a disability!

As others have said most buggies are only for a few years, those with children who have, or who have a.s.n or disabilities themselves are dealing with such conditions for much longer (I'd assume.. I may be wrong?)

15 week old twins...i suppose i could put them on the floor?

Poorbuthappy - if you are in a mind to search, there is a long and heated thread about prams and toilets around.

Blimey - I'm glad I don't use buses!

With my spd, a 9 month old not in a buggy and a 3 year old I would be unable to stand but am not disabled. I might be able to manage it if my 9 month old could remain in his pushchair.

I agree that disabled people have as much right as anybody else to access public transport, but I'm not sure if they have more of a right - i.e should mothers with young children be asked to get off a bus to make space for a wheelchair.

This is a whole new debate I guess. It's like sayig one persons journey is more important than anothers - who has the right to decide that?

mind you i suppose weeing and changing a tampon with the door open shouldn't really be an issue should it?

The person with the buggy doesn't have to get off the bus to make room for the wheelchair - they simply have to fold it.

My pram doesn't fold down. I would have to get off the bus. I bought a buggy when he was big enough.

Why does the door need to be open? When mine were in a double buggy, I would just park it in the loos and nip into a cubicle. Likewise if I had to fold the buggy on a bus, I would sit with them on my lap just like I did on the many flights I had to take on my own with 3 under 4.

I suppose I'm not comfortable in leaving them outside the door where I can't see them... does that me neurotic? actually I know exactly where all the baby changing rooms with toilets are so organise my shopping habits around that!

But a question to people with disabled children or a disability (alright I mean Riven). If you met me coming out of the disabled toilet with my double buggy and you were waiting to go in, would you call me to task about it?

I was planning to walk a lot, which I do now, but lost a lot of fitness recovering slowly from caesarean. I don't drive and you can't carry much shopping in a buggy. So we bought the pram with the biggest shopping basket.
I wanted a 'proper' pram, and got a bit of a panic on and ordered it.

poorbuthappy, that is a whole other thread...have a search for the lastest one!!

at the OP. You may be smug/thankful/justified at someone elses misfortune, but you are IMO more than slightly unhinged to post about it on here and not expect to get a proper roasting. Regardless of whether the woman was allowed to be on the bus with her scooter or not.

poorbuthappy You really are being silly on this thread imo.

The changing rooms in our local mall all have separate toilets for parents to use. Although DC and prams/pushchairs still have to be left on their own, at least it is in an actual baby/child changing room IYSWIM.

I don't think I have ever come across a changing room that doesn't have toilet facilities. Maybe I am just lucky where I live.

I have occasionally had to use a disabled toilet to change DD, in a restaurant as the only place they have any changing facilities is in the actual disabled toilet. But I wouldn't expect that it was my right to use it over a disabled person, I would probably just change DD on the floor of the ladies. I am lucky not to have had to do that yet.

Oh let's not start about pushchirs and disabled loos again purlease!

There is a very long an involved thread covering just this issue if you want to look it up!

Sorry, didn't mean to offend

imo it is different when the baby changing is in the accesible toilet, to me that is then not a "disabled" toilet iynwim.

Insert- Am v. of your fancy toilets LOL, our shopping centre has a crappy little room with a manky changing mat on it and thats it not even a blardy sink never mind a toilet.

Inverness has the fancy changing rooms with the toilet, changing table, sink and random little car seat type thing on the wall but it's also the disabled toilet.

When you think about it actually I accept that some people need to use the bathroom urgently due to 'disability' but if the toilets/changing facilities are shared and someone is in changing their child would you expect the parent to get out straight away just to accomodate them? Not asking for argu ents sake just a view as to how you are meant to react in this situation.

Oops yes moving on

mamadiva if dd was desperate and so was the mum I would ask if we could share