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to expect a headteacher to be sacked after being prosecuted for drink driving?

98 replies

Icantbelieveitparent · 10/03/2009 11:30

A headteacher in a school nearby was charged with drink driving during school hours and lost their license last summer.

They have now been suspended (last week)- pending an investigation but the reason was not stated in the local press.

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madwomanintheattic · 10/03/2009 15:04

i think we're more concerned about the validity of you trying to make up your mind on an aibu thread tbh, when you don't have enough information to come to any valid interpretation of the incident in any case.

i'm keen to hear how you think our responses would help you make up your mind whether he/ she should be sacked though... unless a random mner happens to be the head in question (or the chair of govs lol) and says 'yes, you're right, i've had a drink problem for some time and get trolleyed in my office of a lunchtime, then pop out to wave a stick in the playground and shout abuse at the year 8s'...

but i'm always wildly irritated by people who fuss about things they know nothing about in the playground, stirring up all sorts of bother, when, really, asking a question in the school office/ calling the chair of govs would have got rid of the gossip before it even started. sigh.

Icantbelieveitparent · 10/03/2009 15:22

We're - oh I didnt realise it was me against a collective group? Be careful Mad

How can you question if it is valid that someone wants other poster opinions before making up their mind about something? I have started this thread in all honesty to try to gauge how much of an issue this would be for other parents and whether I am being too judgemental - may be next time I am not sure I should just close my mind to the possibility of other perspectives.

I don't understand how your last comment 'wildly irritate...' applies to this thread. I have stated what has been released in the media and are solid facts and those which are not. Poster have considered this
and suggested what if scenarios.

i find you unhelpful why bother posting if you have nothing constructive to say.

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ScottishMummy · 10/03/2009 15:24

are you arguing again Icantbelieveitparent.you are so irascible

nametaken · 10/03/2009 15:25

I'm sorry to tell you this OP but, on this thread, you are coming across as quite an unpleasant person. Sorry again.

And no I don't think she should be sacked for drink driving. Why don't you apply to go on a teacher training course. Every extra teacher means less stress for those currently teaching.

Icantbelieveitparent · 10/03/2009 15:38

Name - some people on here have been pretty mean to me, are you not allowed to defend yourself?

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madwomanintheattic · 10/03/2009 15:39

be careful?

be careful?

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

i can question it, m' dear, because you don't have any evidence at all to base your viewpoint on, and neither do any of us. (us = anyone reading, rather than me and anyone else in particular, but i do apologise if you felt i was in some way ganging up on you by using a collective 'we'. clearly i speak for no-one but myself.)

and actually, my opinion is that i find these types of situation wildly irritating... i wasn't saying i found you wildly irritating, just merely informing you that i find it wildly irritating that people have a habit of stirring things up unnecessarily, when a simple phone call would have put the matter to rest. unfortunately, a lot of 'concerned citizens' often apply pressure in misguided directions because they don't know the full circumstances. knee jerk stuff.

but anyway, no need to worry - if i'm not helpful i'll toodle off.

will you be ringing the lea to offer your services to the community by the way? deadly serious - if you really are concerned about your community, then do something about it. aibu isn't exactly going to fix the local schools problems is it?

be careful? lol. bless you.

2shoes · 10/03/2009 15:39

Icantbelieveitparent people are allowed to disagree with you.
if people disagree that is not being "mean"

Icantbelieveitparent · 10/03/2009 15:51

Fair enough Mad - we have rather got off topic. I will be contacting the persons concerned about this issue through the appropriate channels as you say - when it all comes out.

Yes 2SHOES and I them - I have no problem with differing opinions.

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madwomanintheattic · 10/03/2009 16:00

x-post on the other thread - so i'll apologise now if we're being grown up...

Icantbelieveitparent · 10/03/2009 16:09

Ok Mad but I think ive just X post too on other thread - I have review my posts - never in my life! .....

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madwomanintheattic · 10/03/2009 16:14

stop already! enough! i'm not posting any more lol!

LadyGlencoraPalliser · 10/03/2009 17:08

What are the appropriate channels for a local busybody with no connection to the situation to contact the school through?
Just wondering.

pingping · 10/03/2009 17:12

YABU as you dont have all details.

Icantbelieveitparent · 10/03/2009 17:15

Lady FGS read the posts I have answered you already on your comments.

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LadyGlencoraPalliser · 10/03/2009 17:57

You haven't though really - you have said you 'will be contacting the persons concerned through the appropriate channels'. I was just wondering who and what these were. You haven't said, and nobody on this thread has AFAIK suggested any seeing that the whole situation is absolutely and utterly none of your business.

Icantbelieveitparent · 10/03/2009 18:10

What many posters have mentioned:

LEA
NTC
Board of Governors

How can you say that the education of future generations is nobody's business? I did state that my DC's are due to go to the school. You really should read and learn the power of suggestion.

I find your attitude sad re 'its none of your business'...the parable of the good samaritan comes to mind.

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kidcreoleandthecoconuts · 10/03/2009 18:14

YABU. Enough said....

thinkingaboutdrinking · 10/03/2009 18:42

I'm a teacher and I've never heard of the NTC..... maybe you mean the GTC?

LadyGlencoraPalliser · 10/03/2009 18:55

I didn't say it was nobody's business. I said it was none of your business.
But off you go on your one-person moral crusade and the best of luck to you.

LadyGlencoraPalliser · 10/03/2009 18:56

"You really should read and learn the power of suggestion."
Eh? Not sure what you mean by this? Anyone care to enlighten me?

madwomanintheattic · 10/03/2009 19:03

technically lol, it isn't any of your business - unless you do ring the lea and volunteer to be a community governor, in which case you will be helping to make the appropriate decisions and defending them to random punters who ring up... your friend who does have kids at the school, is of course, perfectly within her rights to make contact through the appropriate channels... but tbh i'm really surprised the chair of govs hasn't already issued at least one letter to all school parents in view of the fact it seems to be in the papers lol, even if it is a 'we are aware and are taking guidance from the lea and will fill you in when a decision has been made' type letter... but you wouldn't know if that had been done?... i suspect the lea will have had their fill of press well meaning citizens ringing up and trying to squeeze salacious detail from them, or expressing their righteous indignation at the undoubted horror of events.

it's great you are so concerned, honestly, but without anything to get concerned about (ie no direct reason to get involved - not sure how old your dcs are or what your local situation is in respect to school applications/ catchments - whether they are likely in the near future to fetch up there, or whether the school will have changed beyond all recognition by that dim and distant point), you'll just look like a daily mirror reader when you ring up (even worse than the mail lol), which wouldn't be great.

you can make a difference to a local school, but not by getting involved in a campaign to get rid of a headteacher you know nothing about, because of something you read in the paper. that way madness lies.

and i should know

leave it to the people who are already involved - there's obviously plenty of twittering going on already. the best thing you can do is tell your friend to stop whittering about it and ring the chair of governors to register the concerns of the parents. that would be your appropriate course of action with regard to this incident.

now what am i doing? this isn't an advice thread, it's an aibu...

ah well.

LadyGlencoraPalliser · 10/03/2009 19:06

Fantastic post Madwoman. You are sane, rational and kind. I am abashed.

madwomanintheattic · 10/03/2009 19:07

my reputation is in tatters.

sane, rational and kind.

in aibu.

Hulababy · 10/03/2009 19:10

Should he be fired?

I have no idea. I do not have the full facts of the case in hand. Simple as that.

As a parent (esp one of an entirely different school ) it is not actually my decision. There are systems in place to deal with that - presumab;y they willlook at ALL the information and base their decision on that. Trust them to do the job they are paid and qualified to do!

twinsetandpearls · 10/03/2009 19:14

I worked for a very very well known almost sainted head teacher ( Julie Walters is the only hint I will give) who I am sure had a drink driving conviction. The caretaker used to have to chauffer her about.