AIBU to think that " Plain Speaking" is code for plain bloody rude?

[Janos]

I've noted on here that there are posters who pride themselves on being plain speaking, saying what they think, not caring who they offend etc.

Now, on a thread like this..fine!

But they often pop up on more serious threads too where someone is looking for advice on (for want of a better phrase) a sensitive subject when really, it would be better for all if they just shut up and minded their own bloody business!

I do realise it's the nature of MN and folk can say what they like but don't these "tell it like it is" types have any common sense or compassion?

you'd be amazed how many plain speakers can't take plain speaking back at them and get offended.

funny, that.

I guess i am a 'plain speaker'. I dont go out of my way to tell people what i think but if they ask me i will tell them the truth.But people in rl know me well enough to know that if they want tea and sympathy, go to Hecate (cos she's lovely) if they want a solution then come to me(cos i'm a realist). We are a perfect partnership.Like good cop bad cop.

Any pride in being 'honest' is infuriating, when it leans being brutal and insensitive. In the same way any notice which begins 'polite notice' always really annoys me - just make the notice polite! No need to announce it. The very reason it is being thought about is because the notice is almost certainly NOT polite. You might just as well start a notice with 'I'm not racist but...' (on a slightly different note)

Sorry- bit of a tangent,

But the most infuriating thing, as people have pointed out here is the insufferable combination of thoughtless 'honesty' with such a firm footing on the moral high ground...

grrrr

It's like people who have to tell you they're honest or feisty.... meaning agressive and rude.

Like the sketch in the Fast Show with the Dept store make up lady - 'no offence nut...'

Some people are just naturally rude, and enjoy hurting people's feelings.

Quattrocento - my 9 year old son knows a boy called Mungo and he insists on calling him 'Mongo'. He doesn't do it to be offfensive, he just genuinely thinks that's his name! Mungo is, at best, a thoroughly unpleasant sounding, pretentious and ill-advised choice, but when it's mistaken for Mongo how much worse can that poor child's life get? What were those people thinking?

Anyway, YANBU, OP, I, too, find that some people who claim to be of the plain speaking persuasion are just charmless and intolerant, and at worst, bullies. It's so much easier to get away with on here than in real life. If someone persists in being a complete arse then fair enough, they will get some flak, but some people get absolutely savaged by 'plain speakers' who manage to be offensive and belittling without actually making a valid or intelligent point. It never ceases to amaze me just how venomous some women on here can be to others who hold a different point of view.