to find the Stroke 'advert' far too scary and

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think it should be certificated like horror movies are?

Ds is playing and Grand Designs is on tv in the background as I am interested in Kevin McCloud architecture - and this horrible informercial or whatever it is, has just come on and freaked out 5 yr old DS. I don't know if it's the image of the lady's brain on fire or the awful slump of her face that has upset him most. It has frightened and worried him now.

FFS.

I'm not saying that the adverts shouldn't be shown btw, just that for me, it cuts a bit close to the bone (as it may for many others who have relatives who have suffered a stroke)

they're not being shown on children's television though are they?

Personally I'd prefer if they got rid of the "eat this junk food/buy these thousand toys/pester and pester and pester your parents until they either give in or commit murder" ones.

Tclanger - Of course people want their children to be given the right signposts to help. But isn't the argument about the grusume way that these adverts are portrayed and the way viewers are subjected to this unecessary horror without warning!

I don't think there is any need to show this type of thing before the watershed.
My DS1 aged nearly 14 had a nightmare about 'an advert with adead guy and a car'.I don't know which one he meant but was clearly very freaked out.

but not everyone has the TV on after the watershed.

My TV is only on until the DS's go to bed then it's switched off

When I used to work a night shift I didn't watch TV after the watershed (as I was working) either.

You limit an advert which could save someone's life to after the watershed and you're limiting the number of lifes you could save

it is meant to be an attention seeking ad.clinically time and treatment is imperative to limit the impact and potential impairments post cva.literally every second counts

as parents we have to sometimes support young children when ads/news etc frighten but that in itself does not mean it shouldn't be shown

stoke is upsetting,and the aim of the campaign i presume is to raise awareness and galvanise people into fast action

That one with the dead boy? I know lots of people who have lost their children to stupid drivers. I think if its painful for anyone to watch its them. None of them have complained about it. They just dont want anyone else to go through what they have.

Considering the crap that is on tv all the time i.e. America's top model - does anyone with a daughter want them to watch THAT?, Big Brother, all those programmes giving free plastic surgery to perfectly normal people....

These adverts are there to help. And I totally agree with PP who made the point about those PIF of the 70s. THEY were scarey. Does anyone remember the one about a group of kids playing on a farm? One by one they were picked off. You actually heard one of them screaming in agony as she died from drinking rat poison.

My DS gets upset about a lot of stuff on the tv. Anything with a crying baby or a child who is seperated from its mother breaks his heart. We DISCUSS it and deal with it.

ScottishMummy - Are there other ways to to get the message across to people (children included). That is without frightening them to death!!?

well if they're watching it and you are (presumambly with them) it's not exactly rocket scicence to explain that the "fire" is just a way of showing how quickly the damage can be done.

A fire spreads quickly and causes horrific damage if not tackled, a stroke causes horrific damage if not treated.

My 5yr old can understand that just because he sees a picture/image of something doesn't mean it's not "exact" fact of what happens.

maybe slight exaggeration there MrP!our children inhabit a world of sorrow,illness etc we are the filter and censure and support their information processing and reactions.

one cannot wrap them in cotton wool,being avoidant and hoping it all goes away.denial and avoidance isn't strategy to deal with difficult issues

calmly addressing distressing and/or issues builds a robustness,you can reassure your child and facilitate good emotional development

and unfortunately some children will have to hear for real that a loved one has had a cva

True ScottishMummy, we can't wrap them in cotton wool, however, I think kids are subjected to enough these days, without this kind of rubbish being thrown at them as well. In any case, I was mealey pointing out that there are other ways to get things across to people (and kids) without having the unecessary upset. Are we still living in the middle ages!

Up until recently the advice regarding a stroke was never to contact anyone quickly, and most people meandered down to the doctors/hospital a few days later [exaggeration] as they thought there wasn't anything you could do.
Now you should treat a stroke like a heart attack, ie time matters, time =brain , and I think these adverts are excellent for telling everyone , we need to act differently when we think someone is having a stroke.
I think those drink driving/speed adverts were far more scary than these FAST adverts.
Surely they need to be played at all times to reach the whole population. I think Dr Who is scarier

I've always thought the advice re strokes was to get help (at the hospital) quickly.
It was the advice we worked to when I did first aid training which must be about seven years ago now.

this kind of rubbish these adverts could save your life!

YES YABU
life happens

The public doesn't think that though.
And up until recently, there wasn;t a great deal of treatment available, it was watch and wait.
Much more available now

darrell they are good
I have certainly been educated by them

a mum at our primary died on new years day of a stroke - now i would ACT

I thought so too, very good, clear and very informative.
Though T=Time to act was a bit of a stretch really

i do disagree that a factually/clinically sound ad is "this kind of rubbish being thrown at them as well".

what rubbish?it isn't rubbish

majority of CVA happen at home,with little no warning.additional information can assist the person who discovers it.recognise signs,alert services,valuable time.potentially better outcomes eg speech,mobility

I guess for the parents of children who have been upset by this advert, part of the issue parents have is because they may be controlling what shows the kids are watching, but this advert is on all main tv channels (except the children ones obv) so you can be busy ensuring children are watching shows you're comfortable with, but then the advert pops up. (actually reminds me about how people felt about the advert shown before shrek)

For me, I cant watch them because it reminds me of when I was sick. The first day in the hospital there was a lot of "well, worst case scenario, you've had a stroke" which was scary. Okay, it turned out not to be one, but when you have the symptoms and the doctors debating, it is something that upsets me.

DD doesn't seem to be bothered by them because she's only three, and doesn't really notice the adverts. Plus we spend a lot of time watching dvd's rather than telly.

I am the world's biggest critic of medical advertisements.
And find fault in everything, and at a push I could be pushed into thinking that the burning brain was a little OTT but it made the point and was a very powerful image.
All round as SM says, clinically accurate and an important message

I think it was the burning flame that grabbed my attention first time I saw it - for me in laid home the message that the quicker you spot and act on the symptoms the less chance of permanent damage being done.

babymt - they are trying to HELP you

I heard the radio advert a few days before I saw the tv ones.