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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

to be angry/upset with my husband?

61 replies

MrsY · 30/01/2009 21:13

I haven't even had my baby yet (due in three weeks) and he is already complaining about finances and saying that as soon as I recover from my c-section I'll have to go back to work - so during the recovery I'll have to go job hunting as I was only temping during pregnancy.

Am I selfish to wish he would stop talking about this? I can't bear the thought of ever leaving her, let alone when she's only a few weeks...

I know this puts all the pressure on him, and as a car salesman he's not exactly racking it in, but all I want to do is be at home with my baby.

OP posts:
Dropdeadfred · 01/02/2009 13:48

LEM....? Unfortunately, unless the government decides to pay sahms a wage or benefit foe just that purpose then it is not a woman's right to be a sham. Unfortunately plenty of people HAVE to work to pay bills.

violethill · 01/02/2009 13:55

LEM's post makes me feel very angry on behalf of the hundreds of thousands of men who work in really worthwhile jobs but don't earn enough to support their family singlehandedly.

I have a colleague, a youngish man who recently entered teaching so is at the bottom end of the salary scale. No way could he support his wife and young daughter singlehanded. So, according to LEM, he should go and 'get another job and earn more'. I hope not. He is a fantastic, talented teacher who is making an enormous contribution to many many children's lives. His wife recently returned to work (their child is around 6 months old).

Fortunately, I don't think they'd be too upset by the sort of ignorance displayed in LEM's post- they have a beautiful, happy child, who will be raised by two lovely parents who also do valuable jobs. I have no worries about them - they're a gorgeous family. However, there may be men out there who feel less secure who would find the comments from LEM extremely hurtful and unhelpful.

LucyEllensmummy · 01/02/2009 14:05

I AM VERY SORRY!!! [BLUSH] Just sat down post row with DP. No excuse though. It WAS a thoughtless thing to say - in my defence i did go on to say that he is probably panicking and point out that they may well be benefits etc.

Sorry again if i have offended anyone - i just posted without thinking and reading it back, you are right it looks awful - [mortified]

MrsY · 01/02/2009 14:05

I wouldn't dream of expecting John to struggle on in silence - we're a team, for better or worse. I did always intend to go back to work, which he knew. In this climate, it's unlikely that he could just up and find a better paid job, anyway he is good at his job, and he enjoys it. He works 6 days a week as it is, and wishes he could do more, but I would rather spend some quality time with him when I get the chance than have him slog away, 7 days a week in a job he hates, working himself into an early grave. He's a wonderful husband and will be a brilliant father, and I want him to spend as much time with us as a family as he can (as he does).

I think part of his stress is guilt that I can't be at home with the baby full time, and that he can't 'provide' for us like a real man.

I do intend to carry my share of the responcibility of raising our daughter, including the financial ones, and I know that my initial upset and anger was to an extent unreasonable, as it was in the heat of the moment. Being 37 weeks pregnant does not always make for a cool, calm and collected point of view. Luckily, we are aware of how lucky we are to be pregnant, and have the things we do have (which isn't much) and have each other to rely on.

OP posts:
MrsY · 01/02/2009 14:08

LEM - Don't worry. We've all been there (me, the other day, for one!)

OP posts:
violethill · 01/02/2009 14:16

MrsY - you sound like a great team.

It's truly awful that any man in this day and age should feel he's not a real 'man' if he can't financially support a family singlehandedly. To my mind, it's on a par with describing a woman who can't have children as 'less of a woman'. Totally unhelpful and totally untrue.

On a positive note, MrsY, thinking about it all is worse than the reality. You haven't even had the baby yet, and you're stressing out trying to second guess how you'll both feel and how it will all pan out. Many of us 40 somethings started our families during the last recession, so we've been there already. Yes it's tough. But on the plus side, I think it does bring you closer together, and if you are both earning then you do have a very real understanding of how the other partner feels.

Why not agree to not discuss this for a while? Put in place a short time plan to tide you over the coming weeks, then you can get on and enjoy your baby. Have a realistic time scale so that you can start planning for maybe working again in a few months time, perhaps part time?

LucyEllensmummy · 01/02/2009 14:18

OP - please ignore my post, i'd have it deleted but then you would wonder what it was i said. I worded it very badly and didn't engage brain before fingers.
I guess the thing to do is take emotion out of the equation. Sit down with DH and do the maths. Look at what you can earn if you go back, especially part time as you might find it difficult - all depends on what you do i suppose.

I will be very honest now, but it is actually quite painful for me to admit.

I do totally understand where you are coming from though, i was adamant that i would return to work as soon as i could after DD born. Well, she is three now and it has been an awful struggle for us, but i SAHM. IT was complicated by other issues, bereavement and PnD, but thats what we did - im not entirely sure it was the best decision. I don't think our relationship is better for it, in fact the financial strain has damaged it, possible beyond repair I think that is why i reacted so violently in my original post and i apologise for that.

The way things have turned out for us is very much looking like i will stay a sahm when DD goes to school, but i will be taking over the admin of DPs business which, fingers crossed, is taking off (please God!).

It is very difficult to predict how you are going to feel post natally but you wont want to go straight back im sure - and when it comes to it, he wont want you too - even though im not sure, DP says we did the right thing, even though it was totally my choice and he was against it at the start - but you know what, that is us.

The only thing i would advise you to do, is TALK this through so that in your mind, you know what you will be doing - don't do what i did and keep putting it off, knowing that i wanted to be a SAHM but pretending to DP and the world that i wanted to return to work. Because i had nothing set up, no job, no childcare it was very easy to let things drift and of course every time i thought, right, thats it i have to return to work it just became impossible because i didn't build up to it, iyswim. Only you know your personal finances, but if you sit down together and work it out, you will both feel better, whatever the decision you make. You must not let this cloud what will be a wonderful time for you both.

I actually do think the government should be doing more to help parents, help with useful childcare/or help to sahm, equal for everyone then? Surely?

I do think there is too much pressure on women to return to work, but im not as niave as i appeared in my original post that women and their husbands have too much choice. I don't feel that i live in the 19th century though. Im a rampant feminist believe it or not

minxofmancunia · 01/02/2009 14:19

MrsY YANBU, but I can understand the pressure your dh feels he's under, he may be feeling all sorts of conflicting emotions and you obviously really lovehim ,value him and understand his POV which is a start.

I personally don't beleive it's a womans "right" to be a SAHM, it's a privelege for the priveleged few but I think parents being able to take at least the first 6 months off after their baby is born to look after them is the best for them and the baby and obviously in your situation that person is you.

There a lots of optios for earning a bit of money from home when you feel ready, loads of franchises etc. My friend buys stuff from charity shops and flogs it on ebay although that is a touch ethically questionable in some peoples eyes!

I would rather work 12 hour days 7 days a week than have my MiL bring up my dd. I haven't read how you feel about this as i haven't read all of the thread but IME this is usually a far from ideal option fraught with difficulties. Your child needs to be brought up by his/her parents or paid childcare who do what you ask as far as reasonable possible.

MrsMattie · 01/02/2009 18:42

Christ. Who's talking about being a SAHM? There's a big difference between going back to work at a ridiculously early stage and staying at home as a full time option. I had a section 3 months ago. NO WAY am I ready to go back to work. I just think that is a stupid and brutal suggestion, and I feel really sorry for the OP. There must be another way.

ScottishMummy · 01/02/2009 18:55

congratulations on pg.thing is prior to baby you make plans in pre-parent mode.

Wham!baby arrived and your world changes,all those well thought out plans,to do lists and other stuff goes out the window.perhaps your dh is so focused on finances etc because that is concrete and imaginable.imagining a baby and its impact is really tricky.try not argue,stay calm, explain your need to recover an bond with your newborn

CS is major abdominal surgery you need recovery time.mentally and physically

LeninGrad · 01/02/2009 19:20

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