To think Sport should not be about Religion?

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And if it must be, I should not hear religious slurs when I've just popped into the shop for milk.
I live near Glasgow, I needed Milk, went to the shop, lots of agressive swearing all because of a football game.

There's times DD has come home from school talking of Football teams and I've quickly stamped on them and told her Football is boring. OK I do think that but I do not want her getting into it with the way it is here.

We do love a sport-F1, we watch together in season, we know all there is to know and we are huge Kimi fans-no religious horribleness.

I hate that what should be a Sport has such horrid associations, that people know your team, and religion from your name, and it matters, that there was a problem in my small town because the Christmas Tree lights were blue, that people are so small minded they care about such a thing!

The Glasgow accent is not as bad as the Lanarkshire/Bellshill/Motherwell accent.

I went to college in Motherwell, and it was full of wee neds with really nasal accents!

Don't worry Mugglewump. Sectarianism may be common here but it isn't endemic.

I went to a Catholic school and I've never once worried about who is protestant or catholic.

If you raise her properly, and counter such talk when you hear it and she'll be fine.

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I live in Ayrshire and am so sick of the whole sectarian thing

I just go with pushing Kimi!
I talk even louder when she starts about football.
I want to talk to her about what goes on with the Football, and what it means, but I want to shield her from it too so I pretend it doesn't happen..
Right now, I just talk loudly about F1 and then she does her thing. Her words
"Lewis isn't as good as he wants to be, Mark Webber smells, Seb Vettel will be fab next season but not as good as my Kimi, I miss DC"

Aorry to hijack - but can any of you glasgow-esque ladies help me here

Thank you!

I don't like football, but formula one is the most BORING thing ever created, and I mean ever. Its all about rich blokes messing around in cars, its out of the reach of most normal people, even to go and watch it is mostly not possible. If I ever feel like watching formula one I could just switch my hair dryer onto full and stare at the wall, it would be more fun.

Ainsmum, the worst strip I ever saw was outside M&S in Argyle St in the summer - Rangers top, with "Non-one fucks with this granny" on the back!

She was a granny too - 50 if she was a day. I took a surreptitious photo on my phone, because I knew DH wouldn't believe what I'd seen.

you are brave had hun granny caught you she would have walloped you

I live in Lanarkshire and HATE the sectarianism. I was brought up here, and remember vividly finding out about the divide when I was 5 yrs old, when I was followed home from school by a bunch of bigger boys who were jeering at me that I was a "cafflick"- I had no idea what a "cafflick" was, but it sounded like an insult! My mum had to explain to me that I WAS in fact a cafflick. I have also lived in Ayrshire, where my boss advised me NEVER to let on to certain clients that I was catholic. I went to uni in Edinburgh, and worked on the East, where I was pleasantly surprised to find it was far less of an issue.

I can't understand the need some people have to show their affiliation to a football team (rather than a religion- the people who usually chant the loudest are rarely active members of either church). When I was in hospital having dd1, the girl in the bed across from me had a babygro for her newborn in team colours, and her bed was festooned with balloons showing the clubs colours and badges- madness!

The Hibs walk has been (rightly) banned around here for years, but the orange walk is very much alive and kicking. I hate it. It's not good clean fun, or people celebrating a historical event, as some would like us to believe. It is a march of tanked-up aggressive indivuals, marauding through predominantly catholic areas, looking for trouble, and usually finding it, in the shape of their opposite numbers,who equally see it as an excuse for a barney. It's pathetic, IMO, and I find it intimidating and unnecessary.

My cousins are dyed-in-the-wool celtic supporters, and are there every week singing Irish songs and chants, despite never going to church and never having so much as visited Ireland- wtf is that all about? The whole thing is depressing and makes you wonder about the emptiness of people's lives.

Having said that, I do think it is very little to do with religion and lots to do with a primitive need to be in a "tribe". Many moons ago, I had the misfortune to find myself on a "twenties" holiday with friends. There was an outing to a so-called Mediaeval castle (ahem!) with a jousting competition staged where we were encouraged to support the knight associated with the area we were sitting in. The chants all came out, and on the bus on the way back, a huge fight broke out between the supporters of the blue and purple knights, which just said to me that some people just feel the need to divide into groups of rivals, over whatever.