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To think Sport should not be about Religion?

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muggglewump · 27/12/2008 19:44

And if it must be, I should not hear religious slurs when I've just popped into the shop for milk.
I live near Glasgow, I needed Milk, went to the shop, lots of agressive swearing all because of a football game.

There's times DD has come home from school talking of Football teams and I've quickly stamped on them and told her Football is boring. OK I do think that but I do not want her getting into it with the way it is here.

We do love a sport-F1, we watch together in season, we know all there is to know and we are huge Kimi fans-no religious horribleness.

I hate that what should be a Sport has such horrid associations, that people know your team, and religion from your name, and it matters, that there was a problem in my small town because the Christmas Tree lights were blue, that people are so small minded they care about such a thing!

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muggglewump · 27/12/2008 21:42

DD's team of choice is Ferrari!
We're huge F1 fans, and we support Kimi Raikkonen.
She actually does love F1, she knows what's what, who's who and the rules.
Even if she supported someone different from me I'd ban her from sweets for a month we could have good natured ribbing.
I'm not sure that's possible with the Football here. It saddens me, I hate it and I have to live here.

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haveamerrymankyscotslass · 27/12/2008 21:45

It is so depressing.
Where I am now is only 230 miles away, in global terms a sneeze, amd the kind of attitude I came across at home is a distant memory.
What makes it so bitter in Glasgow in particular? I know a lot about the history, I have strong Irish catholic links in my family tree, as well as scots protestant. I just can't get my head round it.

Thunderduck · 27/12/2008 21:53

Because Glasgow is the home of the two big teams, with which the majority of this trouble is associated.

Actually I'd say much of Lanarkshire, both North and South is even worse than Glasgow for this nonsense.

ScottishMummy · 27/12/2008 21:54

funnily enough it isnt as big a deal in East coast or edinburgh.i do love weegie world but abhor the sectarian shite

Thunderduck · 27/12/2008 21:56

Yes Edinburgh seems to be a bit saner about it. One of their few good points.

ScottishMummy · 27/12/2008 21:57

i remember doing time in monklands and some wee gemmies doing their tin in trying to figure my so called affiliation

eh so whit school did ye go to etc

haveamerrymankyscotslass · 27/12/2008 22:01

It's strange, most of my mums family are from the Port, and they had strong feelings as a result, but she and her family, or at least her immediate family never did. I have heard some rumours of a family lead assault on the orange lodge in the port many, many moons ago, but it is so hard to get my head round when all the memories I have are of people who had their faiths but were tolerant of others.
It wasm't til I started work that the divides became obvious. Even at school I was oblivious. [blush}

reindeercantdancethetango · 27/12/2008 22:03

Have just had huge gangs of teens walking (staggering) down my street armed with golf clubs and glass bottles chanting sectarian "songs" assume in responce to the game. It is one of the worst things abiout being in Glasgow.

ScottishMummy · 27/12/2008 22:05

yes it is toxic

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muggglewump · 27/12/2008 22:27

Gah, I hate it.
It's something I wasn't brought up with, I didn't want and I have to try to shield DD from, and I have a feeling I do a bad job at times when I quickly change the subject, or give her sweets to take her mind off the questions.

I hate that adults think this is as good thing. Adults, wanting to teach this to their kids.

I'm horrified by it all, never mind teaching it

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Upwind · 27/12/2008 22:29

With my DC likely to grow up in Glasgow is there any way to stop them supporting one of these clubs?

The coverage of that riot in Manchester a few months back gave me the creeps. Especially the sectarian chanting.

Thunderduck · 27/12/2008 22:32

I'd introduce them to other sports if you can,perhaps Rugby.

ScottishMummy · 27/12/2008 22:33

bus to see St Mirren!or hamilton accies

solidgoldstuffingballs · 27/12/2008 22:35

SOme years ago I worked in an office in London, and one of my colleagues (on my professional level) supported one of the two big Glasgow teams and our boss (immediate boss, not CEO) supported the other. My colleague had a poster on her wall of a player for the team she supported; one Monday the boss came past her desk and ordered her to take the poster down as her team had beaten his team at the weekend. He said he would make an official complaint if she didn't remove the poster.

Now I would have told him to go ahead, myself ie just try and make that one stand up in court, fucknuts... but a) I both hate football and utterly don't get why people get in such a tizzy about a lot of men chasing a ball about, b) despised the boss in question and would have loved to put him on the spot when he was throwing his weight about and c) actually would really have liked to force that sort of fuckwitted bullying into a court case and stepped on it.

My friend, who is more of a wuss diplomat than me took the poster down.
This whole thing stil enrages me a little bit.

ScottishMummy · 27/12/2008 22:38

sadly not about the footy all about the tribalism,argy bargy

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muggglewump · 27/12/2008 22:41

Definitely other sports Upwind
As I've said, we are big F1 fans and DD does love F1 but the football pull is there.
Most people have a team and the kids at school seem to, too. If you don't have one you support then it'll be decided for you going on whether you go to Church and the colour of your clothes.
I've managed to stear DD away from it as I do not approve at all and I hope as time goes on I can explain why, and she'll understand.
The problem with that is that she's Scottish and I'm not.

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sb6699 · 27/12/2008 22:50

Yep, would steer dc's towards other sports tbh. If that's not possible try and get them to support their local team, partick thistle, clydebank, etc.

When we lived in Glasgow I totally refused to allow my dh to buy ds a rangers strip and reminded him for the reasons he doesn't wear a strip even to go to matches.

He used to wear his scarf at the game then take it off and stick it up his jacket on his way him to try and avoid trouble.

ScottishMummy · 27/12/2008 22:52

wahey!the jags

Thunderduck · 27/12/2008 22:53

My cousin used to play for Partick Thistle so if I was asked who I supported I'd say them. Though I couldn't have told you anything about them,

ScottishMummy · 27/12/2008 22:54

used to walk up to games,pop in chippy on way home.joy

Aimsmum · 27/12/2008 22:56

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ScottishMummy · 27/12/2008 23:11

no aggro in hyndland just a queue in chippy and jostle in peckhams over the organic butter

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muggglewump · 27/12/2008 23:12

{judgey] I know so many people that pop out the baby, shave it's head and then buy it a Rangers/Celtic vest and think it's great
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Thunderduck · 27/12/2008 23:12

I hate seeing children in football strips. Any football strip actually...ducks.

ScottishMummy · 27/12/2008 23:14

hate seeing weans in footy strips.lil uncle fester baldies wering the toxic two.yuk

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