To expect after days of work and stacks of money my toddlers wouldn't trash their room?

[ItsAllTooMuch]

I've cried about it. It doesn't help.

We spent ages decorating, got new furniture and toys.

Every day bits of the wall are chipped off, they somehow smuggle crayons in there, so the walls are covered in scribbles. Their beds end up in the middle of the room with the bed linen thrown off, drawers are emptied.

I'm sick of it.

We're not goading SM. Some perfectly reasonable suggestions have been made and the only response has been "fuck fuck, fuck fuck fuck, fuck you, fuck her, fuck you all." Regardless of her problems, sympathy is limited.

OR if you have lots of cash/time you could get a local chippe to create a fantastic storage-cum-bedroom which a big FECK-OFF padlock

OR

there is no solution

georgimama Oh I see
so why all the name changes op?
I am a sn poster and people are very nice when you are posting about sn(bar a couple) so just stick to one name.

OK I'll bear that in mind .

Who would know if you did actually leave, you keep namechanging.

oh and where did I say I have pnd?

In your OP on the other thread.

Thought you'd left?

AmIWhatAndWhy walk away from this thread. and restart it with your name in sn.

Well indeed, because it isn't really about interior design is it? And getting annoyed when people think it is isn't fair.

HAD pnd

Thanks 2shoes I'll just leave it.

And thanks Hecate, your post made me smile.

yes it was the crucially bad mix of 'stacks of money' and 'uncontrollable children' in an AIBU thread

it was a trap, really

Georgimama pack the fuck up. You sound like a spoilt nine year old goading a crying infant. the OP is stressed and upset and your spite is appalling

Aw come on, georgiemama was trying to help and then got a IABU-by-stealth swiftly followed by a barrage of fuckoff

If you have 2 children close together in ages, and have/had PND and are having problems with their behaviour,and SN, I can see why you would be at your wits end. But maybe AIBU was not the right place to post? SN sound like you will have the benefit of their experiences, and on a "serious board". Your OP sounded juist like someone not taking responsibility for their DCs bad behaviour, sorry, but I think that is why some were less than sympathetic

Have you tried asking for help from HV (not all of them are useless)or Surestart (if in yr area)

When my middle two were 2 & 3 we didn't leave them unsupervised to play.

They usually played in the lounge, if they were playing in their bedroom one of us was up there with them.

Sadly if yours have SN you will probably have to supervise them for far longer than you would normally.

Ours have over the years pulled the wallpaper off, I am waiting until the youngest is 4 before we consider redecorating!

Art & craft things at the dining table only.

When my dc wake up I always wake up (light sleeper) so no chance of them room trashing then - not sure what you can do to prevent that if you are a heavy sleeper. Dog gate across the doorway and leave the doors open at night so you hear them?

Well as my final note. I'm disgusted with some of you.

And morningpaper, are you not on the mn staff? I'd hope you would be a little more careful with what you say if so.

I'll slam the door behind me shall I?

Squeak
What did I say?
I am really sorry you are having such a bad time op

All art stuff locked away in the kitchen

What I have done recently is bought some big storage boxes from Ikea (I know) so if they wnat to play dolls they have to ask for the dolly box, if they want to play dressing up I will tell them to tidy away the dolls first so only one big box out at a time, now and agin I go up and tidy/play with them. Jigsaws/games on high shelf can only get out if I'm there.

The other day DD2 pulled the curtain hook thing out the wall in DD1's room and turned a wall into a dartboard

I know how you feel

Please don't be upset OP. Some threads go tits up for god knows what reason.
Some people have tried to be helpful and others not quite so.
You sound like you are having a hard time and could do without any more shit.
Leave this thread and post where you will get the support you want.

I make my two scrub the walls when they crayon them. It is truly amazing what a wetwipe will remove.

Has OP namechanged in the middle of the thread or am I AGAIN not understanding anything?

gosh its all a bit fraught isn't it.

you really shouldn't post in AIBU - if you want sympathy. It's kinda a free for all in here.

Op you really have been out of order on this thread.

lifes shit and you want people to recognise and hear you that lifes shit at the moment.

I think we hear you. so please take that to heart.

i thought Mutt was v. unkind, but apart from that i think it was all pretty much as one would expect on AIBU.

maybe this was a rant rant rant post - i think we all know the times where we want to cry and our dh'dp tries to ask us what the matter is so they can solve it and make it better...and you say "piss off, i just want to cry is that fucking allowed!" so it might be a bit like that. and thats cool.

if you really do want advice, here is my threpence worth.

crayons are the devils work as are felt tips and biro - you must purge your house of these sinly weapons of mass destruction - build a big bonfire and add plastacine, play dough and lego.

if you have lots of toys - the kids dont need them, they dont, its probably youtrying to make up for some mental anxiety about being a parent - rather than their need for a load of plastic tat.

bin it = charity shop it, sell it. get rid.

accept that toddlers are pretty much satan. - accept and breeeeaaaaath in and out.

there.

accept wallpaper will be ripped and you have no need to decorate for 3 years YAY!

keep your few toys in the living room, where you can say - put that back please repeatedly, whilst sitting on your arse with a brew and watching telly.

my kids wrote wear words on the wall once, i made them rite it again - underneath only spelt correctly. It takes the fun out of it.

Op you ok? Have seen you on other threads recently and you seem like your struggling. Just forget everythin that has been said, things have been taken the wrong way etc. I dont think anyone was trying to be nasty, just trying to help. Your obviously very stressed by your responce to some of them comments. Is there anything anyone can do to help you?

Since you are not here I don't know ages etc I don't know how much help I can be but I can sympathise both my DD's are like mini tornado's. Honestly they could make a mess in an empty sterile room Im sure of it. While I am busy removing the wet toilet paper from the bathroom tils they are busy crayola'ing on the living room carpet.

Me and DH have just bought a house we are renovating my childproofing tips = crayons, pens etc are a no no - use crayola's they wipe off easily with water. dd2 is far too young to clean up after herself but sine dd1 has been 3 I tolerate mess i.e. toys etc but wanton destruction such as penning on walls, furniture she is made to clean off herself. Moving furniture/messing up beds and she has to put it all back. RE her room now she is nearly five if she pulls all of her clothes/toys out they stay there untill she pputs them back. If she wants to live in squalor thats her problem. She normally tidies her room about once a week now with no pushing, she just gets sick of the mess and then I go in and clean/hoover etc.

For furniture go for cheap and cheerfull untill they leave home then invest in the good stuff.

Flooring lamintes or really cheap carpets.

Walls tiles and hardwearing washable paint straight onto plaster boards or heavy duty lining paper.

Really young toddlers can be fenced in with the babyden if you have the room, use it as a room divider.

Not in any way judging any parenting or supervision decisions, but there is no WAY ds would be allowed to scribble on walls or move furniture, mush less trash the place. How does it happen? Hide the crayons at least!
Um, kind of agree with AlanPartridge, lay down the law a bit.

oh sorry, managed to miss the bit where you explained they have sn - apologies. Obv that changes things a bit, but I still think you should hide the crayons!