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To make my 17 year old son use the launderette because I am so sick and tired of him treating the rest of the family with disdain and our house like a hotel?????? Tis long.. Soz.

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Beelliesebub · 01/12/2008 10:25

DS3 is in 6th form, he has a part time job where he earns about £300 a month and because dh was on a really low income last year ds3 also gets the full £30 EMA every week. Out of this we take no money from him whatsoever, it's his to do with as he sees fit. All we ask of him is to walk the family dog for 10mins a day and perhaps the odd chore like put the bins out or bring them in, unstack the dishwasher occasionally or put his stuff in it....
I decided in the summer that all my ds's would do their own washing as to be honest they were really taking the p*ss. I was doing three loads a day and where me and dh would try something on decide not to wear it we would then hang it back up my ds's put it in the wash. This included stuff that had been ironed and put on their bed but when they came in it got dumped on the floor, creased and they then decided to put it back in the wash. When I implemented this rule their washing load mysteriously reduced to 2 loads a week...
Anyway, over the last few months he's become increasingly more annoying.
He rarely takes the dog out, the one thing he's been specifically asked to do. If I ask him to do anything he looks at me like I'm an arsehole. He treats my home like it's a hotel. He's moody, arrogant, and dismissive with me and I really can't be arsed to appease him any more.... Little shit!
I run out of plates and glasses because they're all in his room with his very own special brand of mould growing in them.
Anyway, this weekend was the final straw. On the Saturday night when he came in he took 4 socks and a tea towel out of the washing machine that I'd put in there for the next wash, shoved them on the breakfast bar (dirty) and then proceeded to wash a half load of washing on a full load??? WTF! AND on the Sunday morning he ordered a taxi to take him the 1 mile to work and then let it wake the whole house up by being in his room while the taxi decided he'd had enough of waiting outside for him and knocked on the door at 7.50 on Sunday morning.... Knowing full well that his dad gets up between 4.30 and 6.30 all week depending on what shift he's on and only gets a lie in at weekends.
SO...........
Did I do wrong giving him this:

House Rules.

Since you behave the same (or worse) than a lodger, here are your new house rules as of Monday 1st December. If in the future you become less self obsessed and want to be part of a family again then we will look at relaxing the rules.

You will not be asked at any time to do any jobs or tasks.
You will be in the house by 11.00pm every week night. Unless arranged in advance.
You will be in the house by 12.00pm at weekends. Unless arranged in advance.
You have access to your bedroom, the bathroom and the kitchen only.
Any other room is out of bounds (including ds4's) unless you are invited.
If at home you should be in your room by 10.00pm.
You can shower once per day between the hours of 7.00am and 10.00pm (Mon-Fri).
At weekends showers to be taken between 10.00am and 10.00pm.
The kitchen or anything in it are not for your use.
The car is not for your use.
Washing to be done at launderette.
The washing line is not for your use, nor is the drier.
The only reason you will be in the kitchen is to fetch a drink or have breakfast.
You will be offered 1 cooked meal per day.
Visitors are not allowed.
Loud music is not allowed.
The PC is not for your use. Homework to be done at schools computer.
If you phone for a taxi ask them not to knock on the door. Wait downstairs.
If your friends pick you up ask them to turn the stereo down before they arrive.

If you choose to ignore the above rules, or we end up working for you again ( clearing up the bathroom, having to fetch pots from your room because we?ve ran out, clearing up because you can?t tidy the kitchen after you) etc etc then you will be paying weekly board. There will be no more warnings. In consideration of the fact that you don`t eat here every night your board will be set at £30 per week with the same rules as above. In consideration of paydays you will be given two weeks notice that you will be paying for board and lodgings.

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Beelliesebub · 01/12/2008 16:58

For those of you who want to know where DH stands on this, Ill tell you (Im DH).What we didnt tell DS3 is that this is for 3 weeks,it will end before Xmas, its not permanent. It is draconion for a reason - to try and shock him into behaving like he wants to be part of the family.We are well aware that the rules are not sustainable. If after three weeks he is still the same then we will go back to how it used to be with no rules, But....he will be paying board.

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poppy34 · 01/12/2008 18:28

dittany out of interest do you ahve any teenage children/godchildren etc? Just think that your post smacks of a certain lack of empathy

SpangleMaker · 01/12/2008 19:57

OK so it's 20yrs since I was your DS's age and no teenagers myself but....

My Mum had the same issues with me & my brother. She decided when we were young that we would spend enough time as adults cooking, cleaning, having to earn money etc and she wanted us to enjoy our childhood. But when we got to 15/16 she did begin to feel like we were ungrateful, taking her for granted etc. She thought we would get to an age when we'd suddenly realise how great she'd been to us, and start offering to cook, clean, do washing etc. Well, no. Teenager's minds (and many adults' too) don't work like that. You learn all your life your Mum will look after you and it doesn't even occur to you to change it.

YANBU to be annoyed at your DS's behaviour, anyone would be. But to go from one extreme to the other will be totally confusing for him & all it'll do is alienate him - and I don't think that will get you the results you want.

The understanding I had with my parents was that they would do whatever for me until I left home at 18, then I was an adult and was expected to behave like one. I was 'allowed' to do my own thing without judgement or comment from them, but in turn I was expected to act responsibly when I came home.

I suggest you do something similar for your DS. Set a time in the future (eg when he's 18) when you expect him to behave like an adult (eg paying board, buying his own food, doing his own washing up, whatever). If it's combined with eg 18th birthday, finishing exams, leaving home for uni or whatever it sets a milestone that fits with a change in his life. In the meantime, set a FEW basic ground rules about what is acceptable/unacceptable and STICK to them.

mumeeee · 01/12/2008 21:45

YABU. Yes he is being annoying but thatlist of rules is far to long.

NotanOtter · 01/12/2008 21:57

i think it sounds on the edge of ott but ok

teens can be hell

3 weeks is fine

i would let him use washing line however

we are on the verge of investing in some locks for rooms with food!

fluffles · 01/12/2008 22:01

I totally agree that things had to change but you've only succeeded with that list in making him an outcast in his own family. It's so sad

What about a list of 'mutual respect' based rules for EVERYONE to follow?

When i was a teenager my parents had a 'this is our house' and 'you're the child' attitude resulting in me not allowed opinions that differed from theirs in what to cook, eat, watch on tv etc.

The result was that i went to uni at 18 and never went home again. I never had that 'young adult' relationship with my parents and i still keep quite a lot private from them. I love them and don't doubt for a second they love me but i couldn't live with them as a second-class family member when i was 17/18.

On the other hand, i lived very happily with flatmates at that age with lots of negotiation and mutual respect. Because we were all equals.

Quattrocento · 01/12/2008 22:04

You are being bonkers, you know. Oh dear. He is a teenager and you are an adult and you are overreacting wildly.

StephanieByng · 01/12/2008 22:20

That list is fine if you want to push him away and stop any chance of a good strong adult relationship developing between you in the future.

cory · 01/12/2008 23:13

I still don't get why you won't take money off him. He's rolling in it by all accounts, and it might just be a small thing that makes you feel marginally better about him, and perhaps even makes him feel better about himself.

starbear · 01/12/2008 23:17

I've only had time to read part of this. Be afraid,be very afraid. My younger brother is like this, only thought of him self. Has moved back in at 36 and still treats my mum's house as an easy option. Has dumped various girlfriends and moved back in over the years. Paid £200 for 5 weeks, (to a pensioner) leaves his room a mess, eats when he wants to etc..blah blah. I would rather my kid left home than be a teenager at my house for the rest of his life. My mum too soft. Shape up or ship out. I'm sorry I will not let my Ds treat me or any woman as if she was his servant. (Can you see my crossed fingers +

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