... to want to cancel Christmas!

[YaddaYaddaYadda]

I just cannot be arsed with it, the shopping, the trying to find the receipts for people who don't like the presents I chose them, the cooking, the overeating, the 'having to go on a diet' afterwards cos I ate to much, having to be nice to my family for DAYS. I'd be much happier at home with crap on the tv and loads of wine

Oh! Are you my brother? He called today saying the same thing. I said it was okay but really he means his family. He's going to the IOW for Christmas with another family just couldn't be bothered with his family. I really don't care. But I do resent him wanting to do the family thing when he has a new girlfriend he wants to show off. Sorry gone off the point. Oh I see want you mean.

Can I join your club? I'm sick of it too.

I shall have yule instead and go back to my pagan roots.

Oh I like the idea of being pagan. Does that mean an orgy?

YABU

I love Christmas so I will not let you rain on my parade.

Orgy? That would be the druids love.

Trees, holly, ivy, yule log are all pagan traditions you know, as is christmas dinner and indeed christmas!

Egg-nog anyone?

I'm not being totally honest. I'm going to love this year. Waster of a brother in IOW. Mum with sister in Cornwall. DH hasn't got any close family left (I know sad ..etc.. Never mind) We are having close friends to our house who have a little DD. One is a chef the other bakes beautiful cakes. We will put the kids to bed & make Irish coffee. Perfect. Sorry Yadda.

See English history is just not taught in schools. Turkey I think native American Oh! as well as the potatoes

Yup! It's all a farce. Even the presents. The agans used to take their families and friends gifts of food to tide them through the winter. They have a big party and meal in the middle of winter to celebrate the 'we're nearly through it' thing. Same day as christmas day, what a coincidence! Some scientists tracked the north star to bethlehem in March(ish), not december. It's all crap really. Even the tree (brought to the UK by King Albert from Germany) is pagan, bringing the outside and nature inside to celebrate it.

Must go to bed. Other wise won't get up for work. Lose job Can't pay for my pagan meal or present or king Albe tree. Night all.

Night

Phantom, I know it is all a farce but have a mince pie to cheer yourself up. Or perhaps a glass of mulled wine?

Not at the moment. Leave me another week and I may have a little more enthusiasm.

What's all crap? The whole thing or the Jesus bit of it? Surely it's a whole big mix of, in my opinion, lovely traditions from different parts of the world and gathered over many centuries. To me the birth of Jesus symbolises hope and generosity more than it describes a supposedly historical event. And the cycle of life too, so it has a poignancy - I mean myrrh isn't that common at baby showers I've heard. It's all stories - and wonderful ones at that. What's the problem?

It's just a chance for the shops to sell you tat! Bah humbug!

By the way - that wasn't supposed to be belligerent. I'm knackered too - got to go now a pack for a wedding. How late I leave everything. What is MY problem?!

You could go to Ilkely Moor where tat is barred.

Ohh, weddings. Don't get me started on those!

or Ilkley Moor even.

Now on that I'm with you. I am a bridesmaid for the first - and I trust LAST time. What a shit job that has turned out to be.

I hate tat. Chea plastic shit that uses oil to make, breaks within 10 minutes, gets thrown into landfil and takes thousands of years to break down.

Bah humbug!

Bridesmaids used to be used as a decoy incase someone tried to kidnap the bride. That's why they all look like overkill.

I would love to go away for Christmas. All of us - me, DW and DCs that is. Book a flight to Tenerife. Disappear for two weeks. Not tell respective families until a few days before. Enjoy expressions of horror. Sadly, it won't happen.

Maybe next year.

I know - but no-one is going to want to kidnap this one after the last few months. It will be a good day - lots of mates going - but what a bleedin palaver.