to think having concern for people who are asking for help and wanting them to have access to good advice isn't something to be sneered at?

[hunkermunker]

hunker you hold opinionated views and have trotted out the ff is evil,you have been harsh about ff etc and citing quasi-research

you certainly give it, thus someone will give it back.

mustn't grumble

YANBU you are being very kind.

I wish I was that kind.

Mmmmm an internet chat site type thingy populated by women - bitchy........ how can that be.......

I thnk it all relates to they way people word things. If it riles people up they enjoy the rise.

If you really enjoy a scrap try warfish.com my DH is hooked on it!

Hi.... This is my first post and probably my last since I tend to use MN as a quick resource only. I just wanted to say to HM, I didn't know about MN when I had my first kid a few years ago. I fucked up BF so she got formula, I was advised to wean early, another fuck up. She has food intolerances and allergies galore that she's only just growing out of.

Roll forward to 2nd DD, I can honestly say that it is ONLY because of the things people like you and Tiktok wrote that meant this time I got it right. This time motherhood was actually a pleasure.

So here is is, long overdue, thank you...

Agreee mabanana

Hunker, I am glad to rad the info you post about bf and weaning, as I probably got it wrong and would do differently now thanks to what I read here. I don't know if I will have another baby (hope so), but I will approach it differently I think. I still think tho that it gets people's backs up to be criticized after they have done what they thought was for the best, if you see what I mean!

Thanks for the thanks, Marmalade - that's lovely to read.

I was a bit confrontational yesterday - PMT, general frustration, who knows? Yes, I sometimes post to provoke debate - and it often makes for interesting (sometimes heated) reads with new people adding to the mix, which I think's quite nice.

If I personally upset anybody, I'm sorry. I don't know that I did though - there were a lot of people who posted that they were having a go at me because I might be upsetting other people, but that's not quite the same thing.

And some people just like having a go at me.

"By NiceShoes on Tue 28-Oct-08 00:04:56
hunker you hold opinionated views and have trotted out the ff is evil,you have been harsh about ff etc and citing quasi-research

you certainly give it, thus someone will give it back.

mustn't grumble"

Load of crap, NS. Where have I said formula's evil? Where have I been harsh about ff? And where is the quasi-research I've cited? Please back up your snides with evidence, thanks, love.

New to MN, after advice re possible 4 month growth spurt. Have wee boy who is feeding every hour, won't nap, waking in the night after he was sleeping through since 4 weeks. I'm exhausted, feel like I don't have enough milk, how long will this go on for?? Should I swap to formula?

YANBU, I have learnt an awful lot from MN (you being very prominent Hunker).
However, I may have done things a leetle differently than you (esp with DS1 in my pre-MN days ) so sometimes I can see why people get defensive.

I honestly can't say that I have seen any more "rucks" at the moment than at any other time during my 5 years here, tbh. That said, I am not a particularly bright/confrontational/contraversial/interesting (delete as appropriate!) poster in any case. Bland is my middle name

MotherBoke might be worth starting a new thread for your query(click on AddaNewThread in blue above). My opinion would be to keep feeding and it should resolve itself in a few days. Formula and/or weaning may well not help.

YANBU - I can say you, hunker, have given me some wonderful advice both here and on your fantastic blog.
I sneer at anyone who would sneer at you for helping people from your very well informed atand point!!!

Hunker YANBU. If you are confrontational, I can understand why.

I walked into a baby group yesterday in the middle of a weaning discussion. It was basically along the lines of "My HV told me to wait to 6 months, but my older DC was weaned then and is fine. She said it might make his excema worse, but I just can't wait that long" (I think the last was in reference to frequency of (formula) feeds)

I tried to explain, without making any judgements, about what early weaning can do, about the gut sealing etc, but they clearly weren't interested and nodded and smiled an changed the conversation ASAP. Nothing I can do there, but at least I offered them information.

I know some people at the group find me annoying because I've always got something to say when early weaning or suchlike comes up, but I can't not say anything. One day someone is going to genuinely not know why something is bad (like the time one of the nursery staff was encouraging people to put their babies to sleep on the front) and what I say might be genuinely useful to them.

So Hunker, I completely understand how you feel about getting that sort of reaction. Its frustrating and sometimes upsetting. If someone has the passion and dedication to be providing information on an important subject, they should be forgiven the odd grumpy posting as it can be very stressful and upsetting being ignored, dismissed and insulted just for trying to help.