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To think I should be able to have a council house?

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frustratedmumof3 · 22/10/2008 20:18

Ho hum - must stop my addiction to MN as will not have time from next week so my cunning plan is to piss off as many people as possible so I will be frightened to come on here .

So, my local council are building lots of lovely new council or housing association (don't care what they are) homes in my area with brand spanking new kitchens, bathrooms, lovely new carpets etc, etc and I am thinking why should the so-called vulnerable members of society (who are most probably going to wreck the places) be higher on the housing list than us.

We rent privately (since we sold our house 2 years ago as could not afford the mortgage) and I don't see that we will ever be able to afford another house. We pay well over a grand for a 3 bed (3DCs) and have the insecurity of potentially having to move every 6 months at the owners whim which is the worst thing (have already moved 3 times since started renting).

It really makes me mad that quite a few of DCs friends have council houses where they pay only 350 per month and probably earn similar wages to us (the ones that work that is). What makes them deserve one more than us? I know damn well that we will not get one of the new homes as there are about 5000 people in the queue before us and they will probably go to single parents, immigrants and and generally useless members of society who do not work and have no intention of doing so. We pay our taxes and would appreciate any help we were given (as we need it now) but will get sweet FA. Makes me want to scream!! This thread may be unusual as I am not dissing council house tenants as I desperately want to be one (in a new build anyway).

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unaccomplishedfattylegalmummy · 23/10/2008 18:15

Ah OP I can understand why you're frustrated really as I was in a similar position up until recently. But aiming your venom at all and sundry and completely generalising is unfair. Of course you know that all immigrants, single mums and disabled people aren't worthy. There are a lot more people out there who are more needy than you thats just the way it is.

I'm lucky enough to have recently been given a 3 bedroom, 3 bathroom, 3 storey new build HA house with a garden. It really is lovely. And yes atm my DH is (temporarily) out of work, so we are having the rent paid. (£380 a month). But in order to get this house we had to live in a house that was so old, so cold, so damp so falling apart that my youngest dd got sick and was hospitalised for a few nights as a result. We lived there for 6 years. It literally was a living nightmare.

We only got the place we've got now because the old house was going to be demolished by the council. If they weren't being knocked down we would probably still be living there.
It was a private rent and the landlady was a bloody twat and just refused to do repairs (leaking roof, leaking bathroom, actual 6 inch hole in roof to name a few). We had no choice but to live there because we couldn't afford to pay anymore in rent.

The rent on that place was £300 a month which we could afford. Quite honestly if you can afford £1000 a month in rent then I see no reason why you can't afford a mortgage. Maybe you should be counting your blessings rather than spouting abuse at all and sundry.

alloutofcrazy · 23/10/2008 20:13

Think frustratedmumof3 sounds like a ranting BNP member.

Actually feel better about my life(even though I'm a generally useless member of society)when I read these threads because the OP always sounds vile and I always think THANK GOD I'M NOT HER.

So next time I'm having a bad day I'll remind myself at least I'm not that god awful frustratedmumof3, things could be alot worse.

FWIW, there is no point in giving the OP realistic or practical advice she wants a council house as much as I want to join the BNP.

peenutt · 23/10/2008 20:49

BNP BNP BNP BNP BNP

yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

EVERYBODY SHOULD VOTE!!!!!!!

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

ajs86 · 23/10/2008 20:52

OMG!!!!! i am now a single mum (so i must be a useless member of society??) after my OH walked out just after my daughter was born, hence i couldnt afford to run my house on my maternity pay alone, i have now had to move in with my mum and be patient and join the list just like every body else.
its people like YOU that piss me off YOU can still afford to have your 3 bedroomed house whilst i am stuck in a little box room with my daughter
theres always somebody worse off than you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

frustratedmumof3 · 23/10/2008 20:58

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peenutt · 23/10/2008 21:00

TOTALLY AGREE FRUSTRATEDMUMOF3

shelleylou · 23/10/2008 21:08

Do you not realise that all of us at some point have worked before claiming benefits??!!
Hope your circumstances never change so you dont have to claim benefits. Heaven forbid you should become a "scrounger" actually i withdraw that i rather hope you do may make you see that all your so called observations are unfounded. Then again i wouldnt want scum like you with your so over the top attitude living near me.

shelleylou · 23/10/2008 21:09

oh and with the comments you've made you have some cheek calling people that have disagreed with you vile

StewieGriffinsMom · 23/10/2008 21:24

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FAQ · 23/10/2008 21:29

actually I don't live in a council house, never have done, and (I'm hoping) never will......

K999 · 23/10/2008 21:36

As always people are generalising - why people feel the need to judge others is beyond me.......there for the grace of God and all that....

FWIW I have a degree and I paid every penny of it myself. I was working part- time and raising two kids. There were single mums on my degree who got help with their degree but I could not have cared less. Its about time people stopped looking to see what others have and get on with their own lives. I am grateful that I have two happy healthy kids and a wonderful parnter - the rest is a bonus!

FAQ · 23/10/2008 21:39

oh and I like the way that I@m classed as "sitting on my arse" while doing my degree (which incidentally SGM thankfully with the OU isn't a loan it's a grant so doesn't need to be paid back) - well yes I have actually spent the last 1 1/2hrs on my arse - having a meeting to arrange hymns at church.

Tomorrow I shall be planing the Christmas Carol service, Sunday I shall be playing the organ for the service, next week I shall play the piano at toddler group, as well as host another meeting - this time to arrange over monthly after school service - which is run by just 3 of us so quite a lot of work - especially as we also do an assembly linked to it at the local infant school, hopefully after Christmas we will be doing 2 assemblies - one at the infant, one at the juniors.

Oh and once I'm working again I'm 100% certain I will pay back more in taxes than I will have done whilst on benefits (oh and incidentaly I don't get housing benefit atm - don't qualify) and hope to eventually be working in the field which helps people who need a council house/help on benefits better their lives (and probably also telling them how to deal with the scum that talk to them like sh*t........)

StewieGriffinsMom · 23/10/2008 21:44

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offtoseethewizard · 23/10/2008 22:11

Quite depressed as a fairly new member that people cannot express themselves without swearing and being abusive - just makes your argument (however good) poorer.

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frustratedmumof3 · 23/10/2008 22:31

offtoseethewizard - have you read the replies to my post? Expected some abuse but SHHESH!

Bollocks to all you trying to make excuses for not working! We just want a secure home for our kids and don't see why people who have the ABILITY to earn the same as us should get half price housing. Not much of society when the people who work hard have no incentive to continue doing so.

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Tippychick · 23/10/2008 22:32

I am paying for my degree via a complicated system of work, loans, v feeble grants and bursaries (from charities, not you FMof3). I have worked for years, contributing to your child benefit, national health, children's education like everyone else. Now I'm retraining as I need to support my DD alone. I shall become a teacher. Scum then?

If you resent a system that helps the needy in society so much then perhaps you need to move to another country. I hear North Korea is lovely this time of year.

FAQ · 23/10/2008 22:34

"Bollocks to all you trying to make excuses for not working! "

ok then - as I said last night - find me a job that will leave me no worse off and I'll take it......can't be shift work or night work as childcare isn't available........

StewieGriffinsMom · 23/10/2008 22:44

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matildax · 23/10/2008 22:46

by frustratedmumof3.....
"We just want a secure home for our kids and don't see why people who have the ABILITY to earn the same as us should get half price housing".......

do you know how ridiculous that statement is??? please clarify what you mean by that??

for the record, i have not read all of this thread, however i have read a bit, and think you are a nasty piece of work.

can i ask, why exactly you are still posting?, when you have got what you wanted, and have got peoples backs up, and no doubt have pissed some people off.

you strike me as really rather sad.

witcheseve · 23/10/2008 22:58

Did the OP say their name was on the list for social housing. Too many posts to read.
Councils have an obligation to house everyone whatever their means. It's the law.

Social housing is for people who cannot afford £1,000 per month to rent privately. If you can afford it then you are not a priority. Not everyone can earn a high level of income and if they do they usually pay a mortgage instead.

If a family are renting privatley and are on housing benefit then they will be moved quickly into social housing so that the benefits paid to them are less. I don't understand your argument. If you desperately want a council house then play the system, lose some income and claim housing benefit if you are entitled to it.

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frustratedmumof3 · 23/10/2008 23:02

FAQ - find it your bloody self as other people do

SGM - no we do have not degrees - would love one but have no time with working and 3 kids , as we did not have degrees we worked our way up and did not expect to enter working life at the top (while someone else kept us).

Single parents - sorry no sympathy (except for the kids and without doubt those widowed), it could be suggested that they should have got to know their partner before having kids to make sure (a) they both wanted them (b) they were not feckless, drug addicts or alcoholics and (c) they wanted to spend their life with them. But that is just my disgusting, outrageous opinion and speaking as someone very happily married for 15 years (in a relationship for 4 before kids and who still has great sex with no need for VICE) and who had a plan in life (except could not plan on a possibility of having twins), I have ABSOLUTELY no right to be smug .

AND SWG - look at the threads again and see how far down you get before I said twats (pretty tame methinks).

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frustratedmumof3 · 23/10/2008 23:07

[hmm}

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frustratedmumof3 · 23/10/2008 23:09
Hmm
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FAQ · 23/10/2008 23:10

well you see that's the thing - right now there is nothing but shift work and night work, I don't as yet have the qualifications needed to do the better paying (and "normal" working hours) jobs......hence the need to get my degree and put myself in a position where I can afford a £1000 a month house to rent (without needing to earn £60k.....and then claiming I can't afford to pay for it .