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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Or are we being unreasonable? SIL and foreign wedding.

81 replies

Flossish · 07/10/2008 17:49

Have I spelt foreign right? according to the spell check yes, hmm.

Right brief history. SIL getting married and decided to go abroad. Originally planned to get married in the Carribean. We said pretty much straight off we wouldn't be going as way beyond our budget. So they then ummed and ahhed and decided on Cyprus. When asked if we would go we said yes.

However since then the cost of everything has ocviously gone up, not least the cost of our mortgage which not only comes out of the fixed rate but also becomes repayment 8 weeks before the wedding. Also we had to put a new car on the credit card as the old one was costing more to maintain than it was worth. Oh and then we had a £800 bill to fix said new car.

I also dramatically underestimated how much Cyprus actually cost, I thought it would be on a par with places like greece etc. As it is just for a B and b package holiday for us and 2 children in the resort they are marrying would have been well over 1k. i was expecting roughly half that . Perhaps I should add here that we haven't been abroad since DS was born, like most young families the most we have managed is a few days in cornwall in over 4 yrs!

We've been gently trying to tell SIL since we had to get the new car that we won't be able to afford to go. DP said something to her several weeks ago and didn't get very far. They apparently agreed they would see how things went and give a definate answer at xmas.

Anyway a couple of weeks ago we got a text saying that we needed to say by last thurs if we were going or not as final numbers were needed. I again tried to gently tell SIL that we couldn't afford not to go. DP is hoping to take himself off to a stag do a a couple of weeks after, i was saying to her about this as I didn't think it was on to go to that and not to hers and that if he did it would scupper any chance of us having any sort of family holiday next year. She again asked us to think about it and look at prices again as she thought they had come down.

A couple of days after DP got a text from her asking him if he would come to the wedding on his own. That to afford to do this he would only need to set aside £75 a month (only?!?) and that this would be affordable. I was quite hurt by this as per our conversation a few days ago she knows it would mean no holiday for our DC and myself, also having to take holiday from work to enable DP to go away without us. Not only that but it would mean less/no luxuries for us as a family for the next 6 months!

DP wasn't having any of it as he can't afford to set that aside each month and feels it is unfair on the rest of the family. He rang his father (to whom we were instructed to reply - and not the best approach I appreciate) to inform him we wouldn't be attending.

It now seems as though she is no longer talking to me. I understand she wants her brother especially to be there and yet IMO by having a foreign wedding you make a choice between a fab location and perhaps not having all the people you would like to have there. I said this to her at the time she made her decision although at the time we did genuinely believe we would be able to go, it just isn't feasible for us under current circumstances.

She is making thinly veiled bitchy comments via facebook at me and it all feels very unpleasant tbh. I appreciate we said we would go but could not anticipate last February the impact of the credit crunch or the car costs we have had.

How flamed am I going to get today then?

OP posts:
Blu · 07/10/2008 18:09

Unless the family of one half of the couple are in the country concerned, I think weddings abroad are the height of self-indulgent selfishness!

It IS a shame that you didn't make it v clear that you couldn't really afford any wedding abroad (yes, i know there's a credit crunch - but you were v unrealistic about prices) in the first place, because now you have given this overpuffed bridezilla a high horse to ride around on, whereas if you'd said from the beginning she would have proceeded in ful knowlege that it was out o reach for her , apparantly, prized guests.

But tell your DH to sort her out!

CarGirl · 07/10/2008 18:21

FAcebook update

"I so enjoyed being able to shop for wedding gifts for you know how without children in tow"

Rise above it, rise above it, rise above it.

branflake81 · 07/10/2008 18:26

Actually, I CAN see her point of view.

They (in their eyes at least) have tried to accommodate you by haviing the wedding in Cyprus. You say you'll come, then ummm and aah about it, then they give DH the option of going alone and try and explain how he can afford it. You then say you're not going.

I think they genuinely want their loved ones there and are not being too bridezilla in that respect.

I don't think YABU for not wanting to go but I think you should have been clearer with them earlier on.

She shouldn't be slagging you off on facebook though, that is not on.

CarGirl · 07/10/2008 18:29

Also you go out for a meal which could easily cost half of the £75 for the month your dh would need to save up to go

If your dh doesn't want to go without all of you then he needs to make that clear, the decision is all of you or none of you and you can't afford it.

bellabelly · 07/10/2008 19:12

Hmm, was going to say the facebook thing might be to do with somebody else and not about you - HOWEVER having read in more detail what was said and fact that you texted and got no response, I reckon your instincts are probably right.

Agree with branflake that I can see her side a bit too but really sympathise with you. We went into debt (well, further into debt) in order to go to DBIL's wedding in Australia a few years ago. He was marrying an Australian woman and living out there so it wasn't just a whim but we really couldn't afford to go. DH told him this and he apparently got very upset and in the end we just felt we had to cough up th emoney, even though it meant being in debt. It was lovely to be there BUT it wasn't worth the financial strife. OTOH, I don't know if the emotional strife would have been worth it if we HADN'T gone...

I really feel for you - yo're in a no-win situation.

cupsoftea · 07/10/2008 19:39

yanbu - how horrid of her to treat you like this.

Cappuccino · 07/10/2008 19:45

"That to afford to do this he would only need to set aside £75 a month (only?!?) and that this would be affordable"

but that is a lot of money

and for how many months?

if she had said I really want you there, I'm so sad you can't come, I am v disappointed etc then fair enough

but to work out a payment plan is condescending and insulting

I do think tho if she is slagging you off on facebook you should either just leave facebook or stop updating her with details of your life to claw over

god I hate technology

cupsoftea · 07/10/2008 19:47

what about a web link to the wedding - you could see sl get married & she's see you all cheering!

GYo · 07/10/2008 19:48

definately not being unreasonable. I considered getting married aboard but didnt as I knew it meant most people wouldnt have been there. Including family- unless WE paid for them.

She should grow up.

compo · 07/10/2008 19:54

is your dp still going on the other stag do though?

yomellamoHelly · 07/10/2008 19:57

My brother got married in Cyprus. It was expensive and there were lots of additional costs. Hen and stag nights out whilst there, several meals out en masse and entertainment generally. Plus a big night out all together on the last night. So I don't think you are being unreasonable. I would have thought you'd end up doing all those kind of shenanigans too. At the end of the day dh and I didn't think the resort and wedding venue were all that great either - the surroundings were pretty awful. So it wasn't a great break for us iyswim.
Also think the facebook comments are the last straw.
Would not be going in your shoes.

Tiramissu · 07/10/2008 20:05

YANBU

I dont understand why people want to drag the family and friends abroad and have the face to be upset if some of them dont go. Well if you want your family and friends at your wedding then get married where they live.

Mind you i did married in Cyprus but our situation is different because my husband has family here so we had a reason. But we told our friends in UK that we dont mind if they dont come as we know it is a cost that some people cant afford.

To be honest i find the idea of weddings abroad a bit 'cold' and emotionless. No matter how beutiful the island is why doing it there if you dont have special connection with the place and the land?
In our case we got married to the same church that my husband was baptised and we visited the occupied part (in North)where he grew up so we had a good reason to get married here. But if the place doesnt mean anything to you then why put your family through this expense?

Salleroo · 07/10/2008 20:10

YANBU, As said by many of the others, she is a spoiled brat.

I think it's time to have your DH have a word with her and explain exactly why you all wont be going and to put a stop to her childish antics towards you.

I really do think all this 'weddings abroad' lark is taking the pi$$. We've been to Rome twice and to India. Have been invited to 2 next year in South Africa. Now in most of our cases apart from the Italian weddings our friends are actually Indian and South African and they wanted to get married at home. What is wrong with getting married in your own country? If you choose to get married abroad then you need to realise that not everyone will be able to afford to travel, let alone the cost of all the group nights out.

barnsleybelle · 07/10/2008 20:19

"weddings abroad are the height of self indulgent selfishness"

We got married abroad as it was miles cheaper than inviting our huge family to a do over here.. We would have never been able to afford to have a wedding here and invite both our families and friends, and would have no doubt upset people had we selected people to not invite.

We told our immediate family and best friends that we would love them to come, but totally understood if they couldn't and left it to them to arrange it.

Some came, some didn't...

YANBU at all.... You thought you could afford it and now you can't, simple as that.

Tiramissu · 07/10/2008 20:21

I could only understand it if they have met each other on the island and therefore feel a special connection with the place.

But from what you are saying this doesnt seem to be the case

squeaver · 07/10/2008 20:28

She's being selfish. You're right. Leave facebook alone for a while.

combustiblelemon · 07/10/2008 20:40

I can understand why you're not going, but I can understand why she's pissed off. You said that she wanted to have a wedding in the Caribbean. You told her that you and your DH couldn't afford to do that, so she changed it to Cyprus, which you told her you would be able to do. Now you're saying you can't.

JuneBugJen · 07/10/2008 21:40

OMG...I may have slightly changed my viewpoint having read Combustibles post! I guess you have changed your mind (fair enough, but see what combustible is saying) so perhaps she does have some right to be a bit peeved.
The Facebook shit though has made me lose sympathy, she should strap on a pair and tell you this to your face if she is not happy, not to Facebook.

FabioCatello · 07/10/2008 21:52

The facebook updates may not have been about you.
If she's that bridezilla-y, they could be about anyone related to the wedding, or about something entirely separate.

Ignore.
And stop looking at her facebook.

canofworms · 07/10/2008 22:01

YANBU

Both my brothers got married in Cyprus and I, unfortunately couldn't afford to go to either of them - it is a really expensive place to get to.

They should take it that not everyone can afford to come and so what if you're circumstances have changed - that's good enough reason not to go and she should understand.

Both of my brothers understood why I didn't go and they were more sorry in their attitude than angry

loobeylou · 07/10/2008 22:06

We had our families living in the far north of england and far south and got married in the midlands,because thats where we lived, so were not surprised that some people did not come because of all the travelling and having to pay for O/N accommodation.

We have also declined invitations to weddings where there has been a "no children" on the invit. We were not intending to leave 2yr old and 5 month old and go for a jolly weekend away. Childless friends did not get it.

I do not get why people expect their guests to want/be able to afford to go abroad for their wedding. Either its important to have them there so have it in UK, or Have the ceremony abroad if you must, but have a "blessing" and "do" when you get back

OP is complicated by the agreement to go if they changed the country, but SIL should still be more understanding in the current financial climate

sunnydelight · 07/10/2008 23:20

Weddings abroad are only reasonable if it's "home" for either bride or groom, or you want/accept that you won't have many people there. To expect everyone else to make sacrifices out so you can fulfil your personal dream is unbelievably selfish.

lisad123 · 07/10/2008 23:28

we got married aboard, and would have loved to have everyone there i love. However, no one could afford to come so no one did, not even our parents.
I can see both sides, but dont think yabu

Starbear · 07/10/2008 23:37

This is why I only had 2 other couples at my wedding in Bath. Didn't invite another soul hate all this agro. Had a big party 6 months later not such a big deal. Didn't go to my lovely cousin wedding last year because of the noise my Mum made about my aunt. Now thinking about it not keen on family weddings at all. Just go to friends weddings I feel weird now

Mumi · 08/10/2008 01:34

YANBU! and by the way: nice to hear of a DP with a backbone for once!

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