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AIBU to be pissed off that the head teacher has banned nutella in the school for one child?

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eddiejo · 06/10/2008 21:21

The story.... one boy (hers) has allergy to nuts so now nutella is banned . I totally understand the whole anaphlaxis thing but as mum to year 1 boy with multiple food allergies - i would never expect the rest of the school to stop eating what he is allergic to.

Nutella was one of the few spreads which he could eat and made the bread edible. not healthy I know but more important to get energy in him.

What do you think?

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Beachcomber · 06/10/2008 21:32

I say this as a parent to a child of multiple allergies BTW.

I'm always quietly surprised by the lack of questioning over WHY so many kids have serious allergy issues nowadays.....

MaloryDontDiveItsShallow · 06/10/2008 21:32

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onager · 06/10/2008 21:32

I don't understand how that works outside the school. Doesn't this mean if he brushes against someone in the street who ate nuts that day he will be affected? Is it really that severe?

FAQ · 06/10/2008 21:32

sorry - see there are two threads on this - so shall post this again

Agree with the others.

I still vividly remember the day I (without thinking) offered a chocolate to a group of children from my (very small) school - there was a younger boy who had a severe nut allergy - and he took one, ate and it, and ended up running out of a performance of Carmina Burana (sp) in the Usher Hall in Edinburgh needing urgent medical treatment - this was within minutes of him eating the chocolate, which didn't even contain nuts.

Thankfully his epipen was straight "off stage" and he was ok, but it traumatised me for a long time the "what ifs" - and I was 14yrs old at the time - I dread to think how upset I would have been if I was primary aged when that happened.

eddiejo · 06/10/2008 21:32

Actually I do understand the true nature of anaphylaxis CD. It is part of my job.

and yes am prob BU but it does get on my nerves just a bit. I do see where they are coming from but it is my responsibilty to educate my son and the staff to work with his allergies.

Does this mean this boy would never go to parties etc for fear of a reaction?

I actually feel very sorry for him.

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MaloryDontDiveItsShallow · 06/10/2008 21:33

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eddiejo · 06/10/2008 21:35

my child does not have food phobias thanks.

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eddiejo · 06/10/2008 21:35

my child does not have food phobias thanks.

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latelateshow · 06/10/2008 21:35

Does your son have life threatening allergies also?

If he does then make sure the head bans any of those foods ASAP

If he doesn't you are a grade A arse and should be ashamed of yourself

spicemonster · 06/10/2008 21:36

My sister was on a plane recently where they were told there were going to be no nuts on the flight because there was someone travelling who had a severe nut allergy. What happens if you travel by tube? Or train? Or if you can't control your environment?
So bascially does it mean you can't take part in society once you leave school and you can't control your immediate environment?

That's awful

Kbear · 06/10/2008 21:37

There is a kid in DD's class who gets a reaction if someone eats nuts near her so yes, DD and Ds's school is a nut-free school - as in they ask that we read labels and check things do not contain nuts that we we send in. This child COULD DIE and carries an epipen everywhere. I don't think it's much of a sacrifice to ensure her safety. Imagine if it were your child.

Beachcomber · 06/10/2008 21:37

No, I'm not kidding. As I say I am also a parent to a child with multiple food allergies (seems there are a lot of us about).

However if the OP is only able to get calories into her child by feeding Nutella then maybe there are some phobia issues as well as allergy issues.

I am being totally serious and I understand what it is like to have a child with multiple allergy/intolerance issues.

eddiejo · 06/10/2008 21:38

And yes I am not stressing or doubting the seriousness of anaphylaxis just the preferential treatment.

One of my son's allergies is wheat/gluten and they have had him neading bread and making porridge this week. Very safe practice eh?

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SmugColditz · 06/10/2008 21:38

anyway, what's the problem wityh chees? if your son can eat nutella, he can eat cheese.

SmugColditz · 06/10/2008 21:39

So, because the school have dealt poorly with your son's allergies, the other kid has to die?

spicemonster · 06/10/2008 21:41

There's a massive difference between gluten intolerance and a nut allergy. It's not about 'preferential' treatment. What a nasty thing to say

eddiejo · 06/10/2008 21:41

Beachcomer - no food phobias just totally crap tasting food. He has eaten well for years with no problem and the kitchen cannot facilitate his needs so he has foods which i know are safe and he likes.

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Beachcomber · 06/10/2008 21:41

Have just read your latest posts eddiejo where you clearly say that your child does not have any phobias.

Surely no problem then, you can give them something else?

Bummer about the Nutella but not a big deal surely?

wannaBe · 06/10/2008 21:42

but banning nutela in the school is not going to prevent this child from coming into contact with nuts.

What if a child had wholegrain bread (which contains nuts

or a piece of cake (with nuts

or a cereal bar...

Or what if a child has had peanut butter on toast for breakfast and has some on their hand etc...

I understand the fear, but this is a knee-jerk reaction which involves one product when there are many, many more out there which you can't possibly ban.

You cannot lock this child up in a nut-free bubble.

What do you do, ban everything that involves an alergy? child has citrus alergy - ban fruit, child has glutin alergy - ban bread. and so on.

It is not the child's fault that he has severe alergy, but it is equally not the fault of the other children that this child has severe alergies. The child needs to learn how to manage his alergies, and that he must not come into contact with nuts, and the other children need to learn that they mustn't share food/mess around at lunch time.

I have never heard of an alergy so severe that a child could die if they were in the same room as nuts. There are alergies so severe that they could die if they touch nuts, and that is where education is crucial - child needs to learn that you don't touch other children's food/touch them while they're eating.

But the more you isolate this child from nuts, the more likely it is that he will one day touch something with nuts because he's never been exposed to the risk iyswim.

Gettingbiggernow · 06/10/2008 21:43

Agree with Malory's comment that you can't ban (or police) kids breathing on other kids, if there was a known allergy of that severity in a school then the child would have to be totally isolated for their own safety.

The Nutella thing... if the child is known to be allergic to it then that would make some sense, otherwise where will it end? Banning anything of any type that could have come into contact with nuts, ie bread, biscuits etc? It is a hard line to draw.

wheresthehamster · 06/10/2008 21:43

But are your son's allergies only eating allergies? What I mean is, by handling wheat etc and washing his hands afterwards, does it still result in an allergic reaction?

If so the school need to be informed that he is not allowed to take part in these activities. Perhaps they don't understand the severity of his allergies.

Kbear · 06/10/2008 21:43

There is a girl in my office who bangs on endlessly about her "allergies" - they are food intolerances in fact and make her feel bloated and a bit sick sometimes but aren't actually life-threatening. She is annoying! Especially when she is first in the queue for the krispy Kremes then moans how she will live to regret it!

sorry, I digress...!

expatinscotland · 06/10/2008 21:43

well put, wannabe.

i agree.

eddiejo · 06/10/2008 21:44

Smugcolditz = i find you so helpfull. I must be a complete grade A arse wiping selfish cow.

I thought this is where you could get advice support and a simple yes or no.

Clearly i am totally unreasonable so poke it.

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cikecaka · 06/10/2008 21:44

I think it more the fact that its the Heads son than the fact of nutella being banned, had it been banned for anybody else, would you have been this annoyed