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in thinking about deciding to go about in a burkha? (veil)

88 replies

stitch · 07/09/2008 20:51

in the winter, i would be covered, so wouldnt get cold, no matter what.
in the summer, i would save a fortune on sun protection . facial cleansers, toners, exfoliators. need less moisturising cream as face woudlnt constantly be lambasted by the sun and wind. i would reduce my risk of skin cancer, and save the nhs a packet too. it would be good for the environment, as i would have to buy less heavily packaged skin creams etc...

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2beornot2be · 08/09/2008 14:47

I think this thread is quite amusing sure it was not started to offend anyone

I watched some documentry about Muslim women and a lot of them choose to wear the full burkahs it does not state anywhere in the Koran they have to wear it alot of them wear them by choice or by culture.

snarky · 08/09/2008 14:47

Litchick I doubt she is judged purely on her intellect at all. She's probably more often instantly judged by the fact that she's wearing blackout draping.

Vian · 08/09/2008 14:48

I think they are great. I'd wear one. I don't want people looking at me. I got whistled at the other day walking down the street and it pissed me off. Don't take it as a complement at all. I think we should all wear them, or claw mens eyes out. Actually I prefer the latter. And I am serious.

NomDePlume · 08/09/2008 14:52

rofl @ 'claw mens eyes out'

HeadFairy · 08/09/2008 14:54

It's not terribly liberating for the women in Saudi who are beaten by the religious police for accidentally letting their abaya blow up and reveal their wrist. My mum travels to Saudi for work, and she has to have weights sewn in to the hems of her abaya so she isn't arrested by the police, that's when she's not sitting behind a screen during meetings that is for daring to be a woman. By all means wear something that covers up your clothes so you can do the school run in your pyjamas but it's poor taste to trivialise and joke about something that is the cause of so many women's suffering.

onager · 08/09/2008 14:57

I thought it was a fun thread so I don't know why anyone would be upset.

I mostly wear jeans and a t-shirt. If someone said "wouldn't you be more comfortable in.. something" I wouldn't be upset.

I do think the veil hampers communication. For better or worse humans look at each other when speaking and take note of expressions and so on to supplement the words they hear. So there is an actual downside regardless of fashion

DaphneMoon · 08/09/2008 14:59

Yeh but you could mouth F* *ff to your DP or DH and they would never know!

snarky · 08/09/2008 14:59

What's the point of telling him to fuck off if he doesn't know about it? [puzzled]

Vian · 08/09/2008 15:00

Well NomdePlume I am a sexist. I am not a feminist by any means because feminists think that men and women are equal. I think men are inferior and should be treated as such. Treat them as second class citizens and control them and see a huge reduction in crime, violence, broken families, and taxes.

Twelvelegs · 08/09/2008 15:13

When men wear a veil I will think it is not a sign of oppression. Why should the onus of men's sexual predatory nature be on women to solve by covering up? Chop hands off for stealing, thus it follows.....

Vian · 08/09/2008 15:15

I like your style twelvelegs.

2beornot2be · 08/09/2008 15:16

It is a culture tradition rather than a religious one not all muslim women have fully cover up it says they should cover there hair but some cultures have choose to enforce this. I don't think in the Uk muslim women wearing it are forced too

combustiblelemon · 08/09/2008 15:18

Modest dress and behaviour is supposed to be required by men and women in Islam, but the next time you see a couple where the woman is wearing a veil, take a closer look at how the man is dressed.

jojostar · 08/09/2008 15:52

could I order one n could i have an inside pocket to put my cake in please...

2beornot2be · 08/09/2008 16:04

LOL LOL Jojostar your post made me laugh out loud everyone is looking at me like a I am a freak in my office.

I think there quite handy you could make one with built in handbag facilites pockets on the inside for purse phone Ipod and anything else you need that way if you in a high risk mugging area they won't see you with a handbag

Ledodgy · 08/09/2008 16:14

You're a muslim aren't you Stitch?

Blu · 08/09/2008 16:23

Yes, I believe Stitch is a Muslim - of her own free will, and everything!

Ledodgy · 08/09/2008 16:24

I wasn't being funny Blu. I just don't think some of the people accusing her of insulting other people's religion on here realised that.

rebelmum1 · 08/09/2008 16:27

What I don't get is how being covered up is so controversial yet we don't bat an eyelid when someone gets their tits out..

HeadFairy · 08/09/2008 16:28

I don't agree with either tbh

Jux · 08/09/2008 16:28

Wasn't there a thread a few years ago from a non-Muslim asking people what they thought about wearing one anyway because then you wouldn't have to do your hair and make up for the school run? Or something like that?

branflake81 · 08/09/2008 16:28

I think if the woman has a genuine choice whether to wear one or not and does so because SHE wants to, then it is not oppressive.

I have no problem with people wearing them. I live in a very Muslim community and many women on my street cover up completely.

So long as I can wear what I like, they can wear what they like.

I don't think they are hugely practical though. I love running and hiking and can't see a burkha being great for either of those activities........

rebelmum1 · 08/09/2008 16:29

The alternative is to blinfold the men isn't it?..

rebelmum1 · 08/09/2008 16:29

oops blindfold

harpsichordcarrier · 08/09/2008 16:30

combustiblelemon, are you suggesting that Islam is not a religion of gender equality, and that women in Islam are oppressed and that the laws of Islam are interpreted to perpetuate inequalities and sometimes brutal oppression?
gracious me, surely not
liberating my arse.

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