Any part time teachers out there?

[bluejellybean]

AIBU to expect to get paid for parents evenings on days I'm not working? I know I have to attend half of the years INSET's, if I do them all, should I recieve pay for these?

I don't think that there is any other job where you would put in so much extra time when you are only part time!
I was teaching 4 mornings a week from 8.50 to 12 noon. That is what I was paid for. What I actually did was:
Work all day on Monday (my day off)at home doing planning and preparation and they going in for a staff meeting or part staff meeting if only part was relevant.(not paid as not my day).
Arrive at school around 7.30am and leave about 1pm. Have a quick lunch and work all afternoon on marking and preparation for the next day.
One parent's evening out of two ( fitted in the 2 parents who couldn't manage it at other times).
2 INSET days without pay.
Wrote comments for teachers for the reports even though I finished a month before the reports were due.
I didn't mind because it was a nice school and lovely children and I enjoyed it. I had to do the extra in order to be fully prepared. My husband thought all the extra was madness but gave up saying so-he just rolled his eyes occasionally!
I am now back to supply. In comparison-I was phoned up on Thursday afternoon last week and asked to teach on Friday morning. I got my bag together with some ideas for work if there was no planning (took about 20 minutes).
I arrived at 8.15. Everything was planned. I taught until lunch at 12.10, did the marking and left a note for the teacher and walked out at 1pm. My time is now my own until the next call.
There is more satisfaction in part time work but it is much harder. I only do full time in short bursts because it takes all evenings and a day at weekends.
A job well done is satisfaction in itself, yogabird, but you have to ask yourself if it is sensible to put so much extra in for no pay.

I work 2 days and am payed for INSET day. I don't attend parents eve (I don't have my own class) but I do attend relevant staff meetings (my Head is happy for me to bring my children in to staff meetings if necessary)

He has bent over backwards to support me in making this work and he in turns gets more than the lb of flesh from me :-) But I'm with blue jelly bean MY children come first.

Are you a professional? Are you a team player?

Should you be spliting hairs over a few hours here and there?

My children come first which is why I don't do full time. I realise that I am lucky to have the choice.

"A full-timer gets the full holidays off. A part-timer only gets the days off that they would have been working."

Quite right choccypig - something which is easily forgotten.
When I say goodbye on Wednesday I get a lot of grief along the 'alright for some' lines but when we get our pay slips I don't moan and sigh and wail 'it's alright for some'

I know many part timers who put in a huge number of hours over and above their contractual hours. And ditto for full timers. To go back to the original point though, I think parents evenings and INSET are inevitably going to be a problem if part time staff only want to attend on a pro rata basis, because seeing parents and receiving training are essential whether you are full or part time. That's simply a fact.

I think a good teacher buts in over and above their contracted hours full stop whether part time or full time. That is the nature of the job, a ob that has been chosen by free will and comes with lots of other benefits.

Sorry haven't read whole thread but I have had a communication from the NASUWT (of which I'm a member) to say that this very issue has been sorted out by them. Doesn't affect me as I don't have a contract (on supply as & when) so didn't read it too carefully, but suggest you look at their website and if it isn't made clear on that, ring them up.

The thing is much as I would love to put in all the hours and do all the extra stuff, the reality is that I'm part time because I want to spend time with my dd and pt salary will only cover pt nursery. All our parents evenings are on days when I work, but dh will have to finish early to collect dd from nursery, hopefully he will be able to do that, open evening is again on a 'work' day, but is 6pm-9pm so again tricky with nursery. All staff meetings are on work days which is great, twilight inset for us on a work day, so that we can get a non-work day off, so I can go and will go, but obviously don't get an extra day off and think that I should get paid for said day tbh because although I'm getting paid for .6 but having to do lots of evenings and childcare is going to rely on dh's employers being sympathetic. The idea of teachers doing 8.30 til 3 is hilarious.

Just found this thread - am horrified that women in Deputy Head positions had to give up their position once they became mothers and wanted to work part-time. I was a DH full time until my 2nd child was born, and there was no problem for me to then jobshare .6 with my colleague who had been covering my maternity leave. She still worked full-time, but was DH .4

However, (for a range of reasons) 3 years later both my job-share and I left to work in a special provision, now both doing .6 with a day's overlap. It's perfect for work-life balance - all parents' meetings during the day we overlap. And we bring our DC in on inset days if no childcare, getting a day in lieu if it's not our day.

As a mum of children who have had job-share teachers, I feel it is really important that they are BOTH there at parents' evenings.

Schools need to move with the times and be more flexible.

Arn't parents evening part of your contracted/directed hours? I'm parttime, P/E, open evenings etc, make up a % of my directed hours.

re inset, if it falls on a day off, and they want me in I get paid as this is going over my directed hours - also I would have to pay for childcare.

I also attend other events voluntary as I think it's good to have contact with the kids out of the 'school setting'

Not my most favourite union in the world but I found this

'Part-time teachers should be offered the opportunity to attend all INSET days, including those which take place on days when they do not normally teach, for professional development reasons and should be properly paid for doing so. Failure to allow part-time employees the opportunity to attend training available to full-time employees is now unlawful.'

from the NUT website

www.teachers.org.uk/story.php?id=1686