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to expect everyone to boycott the Metro hotel Woking

78 replies

cheshirekitty · 04/09/2008 21:29

because it is their management policy not to give rooms to military personnel.

Story is injured soldier from Afghanistan was in UK on sick leave and was visiting another injured soldier. Tried to book a room in this hotel and was turned away because he is in the military.

The **. Please do not book at this hotel and tell your relatives and friends.

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littlelapin · 05/09/2008 09:19

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Ronaldinhio · 05/09/2008 09:20

They have recently had trouble with military personnel...it is what it is. Ordinarily people are not trouble whilst booking un but later on when drunk etc.
So when he showed his id they said sorry no military based on their recent experience of trouble coming from military personnel.
Don't see the problem, sorry.

hf128219 · 05/09/2008 09:22

The hotel has said it is their policy not to accommodate military personnel. Woking has a fair deal of trouble with HM Forces fighting with local communities.

Perhaps they were worried something was going to kick off.

Ronaldinhio · 05/09/2008 09:22

I'm not saying that htey should lie...but that in future they will lie so as to avoid this
Questioning other people's moral code....lol

Twiglett · 05/09/2008 09:22

I'm going one step further .. I'm boycotting Woking

hf128219 · 05/09/2008 09:24

I am moving there in a few weeks

Dh is Army - must drop in to The Metro for a cocktail.

hippipotami · 05/09/2008 09:24

I am with Ronaldinio (apologies if I got the name wrong) Military lads have caused a lot of aggro in Woking. Teh hotel was worried they would give this one nice looking man a room, he would go out, bump into lots of his military buddies adn go back to the hotel room en-masse to create aggro.
So hence the hotel policy. Just like some hotels don't allow football supporters for the same reason.

It is a shame, because the lad in question only had good intentions.

It is a case of a minority (the rowdy squaddies causing mayhem) ruining it for the decent ones.

The hotel acted in a manner to protect it's staff and other guests. Okay, so in this case that was not necessary, but they were not to know that.

FioFio · 05/09/2008 09:26

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SoupDragon · 05/09/2008 09:28

So, all you who think it's OK would be fine with them saying No Blacks or No Muslims? How utterly foul of you.

wannaBe · 05/09/2008 09:29

so where do you draw the line?

In some towns/cities there are problems with groupls of asians/blacks/eastern europeans. It's a fact.

So should businesses be allowed to ban them? it's no different than banning someone based on their profession, surely? If black people have caused problems in the area the hotel would surely be equally within their rights to say "sorry, no blacks." no?

FluffyMummy123 · 05/09/2008 09:29

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Ronaldinhio · 05/09/2008 09:31

How exactly is that the same soupdragon?

Nice try at a stir though

Made a policy, based on experience of trouble...seems fair enough

SoupDragon · 05/09/2008 09:32

Because it's ^discrimination", Ronaldinhio.

wannaBe · 05/09/2008 09:33

so if that experience of trouble is with blacks or asians or muslems then it is the same. Therefore the hotel has the right to ban blacks/asians/muslems. it's no different. How can you not see that?

Just because one group of military personnel causes trouble doesn't mean they all do, in the same way as if one group of asians cause trouble.

wannaBe · 05/09/2008 09:33

so if that experience of trouble is with blacks or asians or muslems then it is the same. Therefore the hotel has the right to ban blacks/asians/muslems. it's no different. How can you not see that?

Just because one group of military personnel causes trouble doesn't mean they all do, in the same way as if one group of asians cause trouble.

littlelapin · 05/09/2008 09:33

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SoupDragon · 05/09/2008 09:33

As Wannabe says, other areas have problems with trouble makers who are black, asian etc etc. Would it be acceptable to ban people on the basis of their race?

Ronaldinhio · 05/09/2008 09:37

I don't think that you can be discriminated against by dint of where you work. In the grand scheme of discrimination it's not really on my radar

Also it isn't as though there is a blanket worldwide policy against hotel rooms for soldiers .It's just that this hotel based on it's experience of trouble caused at the hands of military personnel chose not to rent to a soldier on this occasion.
All he had to do was go elsewhere.
Their perogative, no big deal

hf128219 · 05/09/2008 09:38

Yes, the soldier looks a nice lad in his photos in the paper, yes he was helping to organise the funeral of a friend, yes he is in the Army

But has anyone else thought he might have been plastered?? Sorry to be so sceptical.

Ronaldinhio · 05/09/2008 09:39

lol as it's a common mumsnet way to answer. Disagree with poster, question her morals..shake in outraged way

I wasn't saying that I would lie, if you read the post, I was saying that in future they (the hoteliers)would lie
Which they will

wannaBe · 05/09/2008 09:40

"I don't think that you can be discriminated against by dint of where you work." so what would you call it then? "no military" discriminates against people in the military. What else is it if not discrimination?

If he didn't work in the military he would have got a room, therefore, he has been discriminated against on the basis of his profession. It's not rocket science.

hippipotami · 05/09/2008 09:41

I agree LL, but what I am saying is that they have already had trouble with groups of army personnel, hence their policy.

And yes, he could have been drunk, or stunk of cannabis, or been rude, or any number of reasons not reported in teh paper for the hotels decision.

wannaBe · 05/09/2008 09:41

HF he had a broken arm, therefore I guess one could say he was "plastered"

Ronaldinhio · 05/09/2008 09:42

What I meant was I don't think it's classed as discrimination in a legal sense

Ronaldinhio · 05/09/2008 09:43

Not comfortable guessing at his sobriety even with my morals

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