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to be aghast at size of neices and nephews?

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Tittybangbang · 17/08/2008 07:27

.... barbecue at SIL's last week, children playing in the pool. Knew they were all overweight but hadn't quite realised just how fat until seeing them in swimming costumes. Her 13 year old is wearing an adult size 16. Two of the younger ones are obese - not overweight, obese. The youngest one has legs that are so fat his thighs rub together at the top and get sore. They all have what looks like adult beer bellies - big, wobbly spare tyres that hang over the tops of their clothes.

SIL is wonderful mum. She's a super-bright, educated woman who is devoted to her children. However, her attitude when it comes to any lifestyle related health issue is this: so and so lived until 90 even though they were obese and smoked - therefore it's not worth fussing over things like smoking/drinking/overeating. I've gone to family parties and sat there silent while they discuss the pointlessness of healthy eating.

As an outsider coming into the family I see things differently. I see that my FIL (obese and hypertensive) has had a stroke at 73 and now has very poor mobility, partly because he weighs 18 stone. I see that MIL (also obese and with type II diabetes) had obesity related complications after hernia surgery and was ill for 2 years following her operation. I see that BIL (overweight, heavy smoker) has had heart attack at 46. I see that other SIL (obese and hypertensive) took 4 years to conceive her first child - something her obstetrician put down to her weight.

The children are constantly being told they're just 'big' and nobody ever says 'no' to them when it comes to food. They are allowed to eat as much as they like - huge portions, seconds of everything, snacks between meals. They are active and sporty (which as far as SIL is concerned makes them healthy, and stops her worrying about their weight), but they'd have to be on olympic training schedules to burn off all the calories they're eating.

Last week when we were round there the children got their new toy out - a Wii Fit. The 8 year old stepped onto it and it told him he was obese. He stepped off it and shoved it back into the box. He looked quite taken aback. I don't think SIL realised when she bought it that it functions as a set of scales and a BMI monitor.

So - am I a health fascist and a worry wart to think that it's betrayal for a parent to allow their children to become really overweight without at least trying to do something about it. I do feel incredibly sorry for these lovely kids, who have been teased at school about their weight.

Wanted to add - there was an article in the paper the other day. Apparently 95% of parents of overweight and obese children don't recognise that their children are overweight or obese. How is this possible? I'm very conscious of how much weight my children are carrying. I don't weigh them, but it's easy to see if they've got a 'spare tyre' surely?

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AbbeyA · 17/08/2008 19:25

My fairly plump DSs had growth spurts at 14, tigermoth and are now skinny. My eldest DS never had a weight problem and we call him the human dustbin! However he never thinks to eat between meals and he does very serious exercise.

tigermoth · 17/08/2008 19:29

That's reasssuring, AbbeyA. I have seen it happen to boys of a similar build to ds1.

sheik, just took at look at your pictures and you look lovely and healthy - certainly not morbidly obese. You are being too hard on yourself.

SheikYerbouti · 17/08/2008 19:34

I have a BMI of 37 though.

I am a size 14

AbbeyA · 17/08/2008 19:36

I think sheik is being too hard on herself!
My DSs changed almost overnight tigermoth-with no warning! They shot up! DS2 wasn't exactly fat, but he was overweight and very sensitive on the subject. Once they shot up they both liked the new shape and they don't over eat. They very often refuse a pudding and are very good on snacking.DS2 has the most problems because he doesn't like most fruit and veg. He goes to the gym several times a week and is very active, cycling etc.
DS1 can really eat what he wants because he runs mountain marathons for fun!!

piratecat · 17/08/2008 20:06

i have a very distorted image of how i look too.

I am overweight, but it impinges on my life, it's all i think of.

i never realised how much my mum tlaks about her own weight either till I had my own dd, and now that my dd is 6, I have haad to say on a couple of occasions to mum to stop it. She puts herself down all the time, and i learnt that from her.

No she's not size 10, she has been a 24/16 all her life, she is tall too about 5 ft 7. Yet she ALWAYS moans about her thighs, her tumm.

When is was 8, she made a remark behind my back about me, and i have never forgotten that. In fact I ran away!! Yet came home before it was found i was missing!!

I do not want to lecture my dd on food, i will keep it quiet, and never comment about my bod in a negative way.

piratecat · 17/08/2008 20:07

sorry 14/16

SalBySea · 17/08/2008 20:14

Its a terrible situation to be in

My SIL's children are painfully fat (red painful folds on legs etc) - and no! not due growth spurts - like that AFTER growth spurts

She was told by HV to put her eldest on a diet and now stuff her full of tonnes of dried bananas and sultanas between meals (which are basically pure sugar but she thinks fruit = healthy so doesnt need limiting)

Her youngest is heading the same way - if she's cranky about anything they say "oh she must be hungry" and stuffs her with food

not only that, but they never let their kids run around cause they will either get dirty or make a mess

Its really horrible to watch but what can you do? I am not in a position to comment!

LongLiveCuckoo · 17/08/2008 20:17

YANBU, or judgemental. They are not strangers or friends of your childrens.

If those were my nieces and nephews it would REALLY upset me.

schneebly · 17/08/2008 20:24

sheiky - are you SURE your BMI is 37? (FWIW morbid obesity is BMI of 40 or over)

I find that very hard to believe if you are a size 14 because my BMI is 41 and I am a size 22. I am sure that when my BMI was 37 I was a size 18-20 and about 16 stones (5ft 5") Are you muscular or something? I would say at size 14 your BMI would be closer to late 20's maybe 30.

Tittybangbang · 17/08/2008 20:49

sheiky - it's strange that someone who's basically v.attractive like you can't see what the rest of us looking at your photo can see.

I have the opposite of what you've got. I don't look in the mirror very often and when I do I'm always surprised by what a minger I am. When I'm not looking at myself I usually feel quite attractive. Maybe that's how I've always managed to snag very attractive men - I snare them with my self-deluded confidence.

BTW - I wouldn't say anything to my SIL. Just wouldn't. Not after the response I got from her to what I said about my own children's eating.

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LongLiveCuckoo · 17/08/2008 20:52

Sheiki, you're beautiful you lucky gal, don't spend your life in denial, and then look at a picture of yourself when you're 70 and realise, oh, actually, I was lovley looking.

CaptainFabioHiltsTheCoolerCat · 17/08/2008 21:02

Sheiky is a stunna.
Myopic, but a stunna.

thomsc · 18/08/2008 02:25

BMI is such rubbish!

It's a height to weight ratio, totally ignoring so many other factors.

I have a friend who is the same height as me, same show size same age. His BMI is much higher than mine, but I have a 35" chest and he has a beer barrel of a ribcage, but not fat. He's just a different shape skeletaly. His chest is huge, mine is skinny. He has muscles, i have pieces of string, even if I exercise as much as him.

That being said - eat healthy, eat in moderation and get some exercise. It's the only way.

oldnewmummy · 18/08/2008 05:45

I'm overweight, and just obese. Was brought up on the Findus Crispy Pancake diet (i.e. deep fried processed foods and Penguin biscuits) and have been fat all my life (although probably a bit much to blame parents now!).

Am determined that DS will NOT be. He eats very healthy food and we don't keep crap in the house so he's not tempted to eat it.

Have actually lost a bit of weight by accident as we're suddenly eating so much fruit!

Tittybangbang · 18/08/2008 08:31

oldnewmummy - my oldest (9) decided to go vegetarian 4 months ago, despite the fact she LOVES sausages and bacon. I'm so proud of her. Now I don't buy or cook meat for the rest of the family either (can't be arsed to cook separate meals) though dp still buys and cooks it at weekends. It's good when you do healthy eating as a family isn't it? It's the only way to go.

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pagwatch · 18/08/2008 08:36

BMI is crap
my DS has been doing pre season training.
two months ago he weighed 9 stone three. Now - post excercise every day, weights and cardio, sprint trainning and watching what he eats he is 10 stone two and ( forgive me , I know he is my son) he is stacked with braod shoulders and rippling six pack.
He is gorgeous and fit as a buthchers dog but has added weight and would show as being less healthy.
My DH is a former rugby payer and often rates as obese when he is fit as anything.
Many rugby players show up as overweight or obese

Tittybangbang · 18/08/2008 08:50

Agree that BMI is crap.

But waist circumference can be a good measure of health I think, particularly with children.

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mashedbanana · 18/08/2008 20:02

my 2 nieces are 7 & 8 and are both really overweight.the 8 year old wears adult size 8 - 10 clothes.we were at a family tea a few weeks ago and i was shocked at how much they were eating then again their mums the same.my nieces came for lunch last week after going to the park with my dd who's 3,dh and bil.i'd made pasta with sausages,tomatoes,broccolli and sweetcorn.when i gave it to them they turned there noses up and the youngest one said 'i don't eat veg can we have mcdonalds dad on the way home'his reply was' eat the rest you had a mcdonalds yesterday'no wonder there the size they are.

Ashantai · 18/08/2008 20:23

My kids used to be super fussy when they were little and i was so worried, i'd let them eat anything as long as they were eating.

My eldest is 11 and starts secondary school in september but still fits in clothes for an 8yr old, which is all fine and dandy till you see her best friend who is in size 16 clothes and towers over her (and me! damn my shortness!!!!)

Her mum is always talking about putting her on a diet and trying to get her to lose weight, while i'm trying to get food into my daughter! Cant win but at least we get a lot of handmedowns as all her friends grow out of their clothes quickly

Weight is a touchy subject, even more so in kids, but it sets them up for a childhood of tears if this poor child is bullied for being chubby.

Heated · 18/08/2008 20:47

YANBU in your feelings but realistically there is nothing you can say or do that'll make a difference to your SIL & BIL who are fooling themselves.

I get grrr when my FIL who is fat tries to fill my dcs with junk so that he thinks he has an good excuse to eat it too. He also says "I'm on holiday" as a reason for treating himself - the ILs go away for about 15 weeks a yr, not including long weekends. He has type 2 diabetes and heart problems, yet we are apparently 'strict' and 'cruel' in not allowing the dcs a 'treat now and then' - by which he means about every half hour! He also is the worst person for commenting on the size of women!

My dcs might be super-skinny now but that's how the family start out, they then hit 30 and whoosh, inflate. It's at times like these I am glad dh is a blunt speaker & call it like it is.

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