To raise an eyebrow at dd's nursery?

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It's International Day at nursery next month. Lots of dancing, food and dressing up. Each room is given a country to learn about and "celebrate". DD's room has been given Zimbabwe. She's 3. What do you expect they may be learning?

but surely the difference in Germany (quite a major one IMO) was that a very large number of Germans supported their leader????? They willingly voted in an evil man, with an evil plan.

The majority of Zimbabweans did NOT vote their current leader in (Morgan got more votes in the first round of the election than Mugabe did - just not enough to secure the presidency - bit like the US hey.........) so why should we just ignore the culture, food, traditions, music (not to mention stunning things such as Vic Falls - which even Mugabe can't fuck up) that people are still maintaing - yes to not to such a high degree but it still exists.

FAQ did mention traditional music as well as saying that it's music and clothing are now westernised

exactly Hedgewitch - they'll learn about the traditional music and dress they learn about - so what on earth is the problem with that?

Why is it a fucking cheek, underpants?

Children are being killed out there. There is nothing fluffy about Zimbabwe. Would you like to live there? Get real, woman. If my kid had 'Zimbabwe day' at nursery (and thankfully, he never will), I wouldn't pull in a sicky. I would just firmly tell them that they were wrong in their choice of nation.

And it isn't just 'one man'. He employs many thousands, all of whom are prepared to kill and maim men, women and children who do not vote for Mr Mugabe.

Thanks, but I'd rather he stuck with Lego.

these kids are 3, they are going to have a fun day doing stuff about another country, and by the end of that day they will remember they saw a few pictures of a water fall, maybe ate some food that was different to what they are used to and did a bit of dancing, they probably wont even remember what the country was called.

and I dont know any 3 yrold who will go and be supporting Mugabi because thy happen to be laerning about the culture and geogarphy of the country on a theme International Day at nusery !

I made that point earlier in the thread, FAQ.

Hitler was duly elected. Mugambe is not.

You have a fucking cheek to compare me with the government who supporting Germany in 30's

a very strange comparison as you know very little about me .

Lets have debate without getting personal eh ?

You care about what you know. Why not let nursery children learn about Zimbabwean culture? when they grow up they may be less apathetic about what happens there.

so Mugabe wasn't duly elected - the culture does still continue, why shouldn't our 3yr olds learn about the culture of another 3yr old somewhere in the world.

And to go back to you comment about

"guns, death, fear, starvation and homelessness,"

death, fear, starvation and homelessness..........ok - that rules out most of the developing world..........

Sorry, but I still think 'tis a load of bollocks.

It is people who should know better, supporting an evil regime, using innocents to do so.

I'd be interested to know who's idea it was.

Don't forget, ladies, that your three year olds are perfectly safe celebrating Zimbabe Day. Juxtopose that, and your three year old celebrating English day would get a bullet through the head.

death, fear, starvation and homelessness - Central London

Where would you suggest instead then (presuming that they've tried to pick countries from across the world and Zimbabwe was the "African" one)

South Africa: White farmer mudrers on the rapid increase, violent crime at horrendous levels, refugees being murdered "for taking their jobs", racism still extremely prevelent

Kenya: Violence linked to their elections

Zambia: Life expectancy not much above Zimbabwe's, extremely high death rate from AIDS and also Malaria, hunger due to mismangement

Too tired to go on.........

CaptainUnderpants - you could add "guns" to that list too (or knifes).........

Oh, bloody hell, Captain!

Live in the real world, would you? Just for one moment, without giving me the Ralf McTell Crap.

The people of London are free to screw their lives up.

The people in Zimbabwe are not.

Imagine this: you're a father of four. You love your wife. Crops aren't so good any more. In fact, they're quite good, but they get sequestered by XP. You're whole family is hungry, and you're angry.

You'd like to kill the thugs, but you can't. They've got the guns, and the government behind them. You don't.

You put a step out of line, and your family dies.

So don't talk to me about the streets of fucking London. People like you are complicit in Mugabe's big plan.

' People like you are complicit in Mugabe's big plan. '

PMSL - I think you have lost the plot a bit .

but just because they're not "free" to screw up their lives doesn't mean that we should "ignore" their culture,

Christ you could cut half the bloody world off the map if we were going to use having "freedom" as a requirement for our children to learn about somehwere........

oh FFS TheHedgeWitch -

Animals - yes ok perhaps to a slight degree - although I don't think you'll see many Elephants roaming the Sahara desert, or Camels in Kenya

Food - ermm right ok..........not even sure where to start with that one - hey I know - why don't they just learn about "Europe" - I mean all the countries in Europe has the same staple food don't they? And eat the same types of dishes.

Sights - think they'd need an "international "week" (or possibly even month) to cover that lot!

Dress - again TOTALLY different across the entire continent.

"AFRICA" is a continent - not a country -

I will rest my case, Captain. I don't think anything I've said this evening suggests that, but it's your call.

You do argue, however, for the final time, from a place where your kid doesn't have a gun at his head.

That's a priveleged place to be.

only that you compare ME to the Governement tha supported Germany in the 30's and that people like ME are complicit in Magabes big plan .

Yes I rest my case .

goodnight .