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To despair at the crap some people feed their kids

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Apotofrealcoffee · Yesterday 09:20

Currently watching a kid who can’t be more than age 3, tuck in to a packet of ‘squashie’ sweets on the bus. No sign of a tantrum, kid seems perfectly happy looking out the window, but out come the sweets. And to pre empt the ‘snobbery’ thing, the parent seems middle class to me and certainly eloquent.

I regularly see kids tucking into chocolate bars, packets of crisps, lollies, all on the school run. Many of them toddlers in their buggies dropping off older siblings. Parents meeting kids at the school gate with full packets of Oreos, bottles of pop, doughnuts.

I’ve been trying not to judge for years and have been repeatedly told it’s ’just one snapshot of their day’ but honestly, I feel like the time for judgement has entered. I have never fed my toddlers crap like that, let alone just after breakfast. My 3 year old has never had a fizzy drink.

Why, just why! AIBU to feel there needs to be some kind of very direct public health campaign at this point? Maybe even a ‘no sweets at the school gate’ rule?

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ITMA2000 · Yesterday 12:16

Apotofrealcoffee · Yesterday 09:20

Currently watching a kid who can’t be more than age 3, tuck in to a packet of ‘squashie’ sweets on the bus. No sign of a tantrum, kid seems perfectly happy looking out the window, but out come the sweets. And to pre empt the ‘snobbery’ thing, the parent seems middle class to me and certainly eloquent.

I regularly see kids tucking into chocolate bars, packets of crisps, lollies, all on the school run. Many of them toddlers in their buggies dropping off older siblings. Parents meeting kids at the school gate with full packets of Oreos, bottles of pop, doughnuts.

I’ve been trying not to judge for years and have been repeatedly told it’s ’just one snapshot of their day’ but honestly, I feel like the time for judgement has entered. I have never fed my toddlers crap like that, let alone just after breakfast. My 3 year old has never had a fizzy drink.

Why, just why! AIBU to feel there needs to be some kind of very direct public health campaign at this point? Maybe even a ‘no sweets at the school gate’ rule?

They need to be fed raw potatoes to make their personalities tougher.

TheCabbageMerchant · Yesterday 12:17

LowlandLucky · Yesterday 12:08

I am sat here laughing at all these mums on here coming up with excuses . Just admit some mums feed their offspring on a diet of pure crap. No child needs crisps the second they come out of school. If they are hungry give them fruit, carrot sticks, apple slices or a sandwich.
I sat in Greggs the other day and watched a very obese 5/6 yearold shove cale, pasty and full fat drink down her throat. 10 minutes later her and her mum ( finally put her phone down) were in a shop, mum opened a large sharing bag of crisps without a single word and shoved them into her daughters hand. That was not a snap shot, that was that child's life. No child should be that fat.

No, they don't NEED it but many parents also don't see the harm in an occasional bag of crisps. Not all children are obese or parented like your example.

Spoiler alert: Once they're out from under your control they'll eat whatever they want, and in copious amounts. And it's zero to do with how they are brought up or what class they belong to.

godmum56 · Yesterday 12:17

Isittimeformynapyet · Yesterday 09:36

I am one of those mums (I'm not, but let's pretend) but your wise post has made a great impression on me.

I now see the error of my ways. I will stop giving my young children that sort of thing immediately. I don't know how to thank you 🙏🏻

Is that the sort of thing you're after?

need the laugh icon 😂

Kirbert2 · Yesterday 12:17

DiNozzoComingBack · Yesterday 12:09

DD now eats the occassional white bread nutella sandwich as well as the odd ham sandwich. I despair. So I feel your pain.

If it's any consolation (and depending on the age of your child), age 11, she really is slowly but surely improving and will eat a much broader range of food than she would even a year ago. And while she still struggles with any bread that has even a tiny bit of nutritional value, she did eat most of a cheese toasty made with wholemeal the other day. I nearly did a jig of excitement. She has also, in recent months, had a corn taco and a couple of wraps. Progess isn't amazing, but it IS happening. Hang in there!

He will be 11 next month.

He has improved a lot. He's had to have a NG tube twice in the past due to his restricted eating. He's under a dietician.

He's come a long way. I'm very happy with his progress and he can eat all of the ham sandwiches on white bread that his heart desires if it means that he's eating.

Mamatriesmounjaro · Yesterday 12:18

Apotofrealcoffee · Yesterday 10:14

Absolutely, it’s now a societal issue. A quarter of the kids look like James Cordon at his biggest. It’s shameful. And this ‘be kind, dont judge’ is just permissiveness that allows it to be acceptable.

This is a really nasty comment to make about children

Schoolselectiondilemma · Yesterday 12:18

I’m usually so hot on nutrition for my kids, they eat really well

yesterday I promised my eldest I would bring a small pack of haribo for after school, he doesn’t usually ask for sweet, our usual rule is to have them with a meal, he was excited about the Halloween sweets. I think its the first time I’ve ever done that

of course my 3yo wanted the same, I can’t give them different things so she got just that. I would have been that mum. You didn’t see the kale, brocolli, sweet potato and salmon dinner that evening or anything else they had that day

dont judge

Apotofrealcoffee · Yesterday 12:19

Mamatriesmounjaro · Yesterday 12:18

This is a really nasty comment to make about children

There’s no other way of conveying how large they are. Some of them can’t even run.

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Apotofrealcoffee · Yesterday 12:21

TheCabbageMerchant · Yesterday 12:17

No, they don't NEED it but many parents also don't see the harm in an occasional bag of crisps. Not all children are obese or parented like your example.

Spoiler alert: Once they're out from under your control they'll eat whatever they want, and in copious amounts. And it's zero to do with how they are brought up or what class they belong to.

But nobody is objecting to the ‘occasional bag of crisps’. They’re objecting to the sheer amount of junk kids get fed by lazy parents, meaning we have terrifying obesity rates and the most common reason for kids to need emergency dentistry is to have their teeth pulled out due to cavities!

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Autumnalhibernationisthedream · Yesterday 12:22

People keep talking about obesity and junk food- there are sporty, healthy kids who are overweight and skinny children who are insanely unhealthy. I don’t think we need to automatically assume overweight equals unhealthy

x2boys · Yesterday 12:22

ChubbyCheeksCharlie · Yesterday 12:06

Because we have taxpayer funded healthcare and setting children up for a life of health problems affects us all.
Similar reason we used to have public safety videos. I don't really care that much if people I don't know are in car crashes, but it uses public resources, which I pay for.
No one encourages excessive drinking or smoking for the same reasons. Money.

But the Op isnt making a public safety video
She is moaning on a predominantly middle class website what is that going to acheive ,precisely nothing
It cant be compared to the " Julie Knew her killer " advert.

muggart · Yesterday 12:22

Kirbert2 · Yesterday 12:09

It's amazing that you think you know my son and his medical history better than I do.

FYI, despite the fact that UPFs do indeed exist, he has still required feeding tubes in the past.

Tell me again that he'd still eat?

In all fairness your situation sounds very extreme. The majority of the parents who feed their children crap will almost definitely have more options available to them than you.

Soontoomuch · Yesterday 12:23

I had two DC and they only had sweets when GPs and BIL bought them, unless it was Christmas, Easter or birthdays.

So when BIL & SIL were expecting their first (and only) DC they said categorically that the DC would not have sweets etc! When DN was 2 we went round and there was a drawer full of sweets she could help herself to, plus when I bumped into SIL and DN the child had a large sticky bun when being pushed round the supermarket!

blu3berry · Yesterday 12:23

Mamatriesmounjaro · Yesterday 12:18

This is a really nasty comment to make about children

No it isn’t. There are far too many overweight children and it’s the parents who are to blame.

Ladybarnaby · Yesterday 12:23

GoodGirlFaith · Yesterday 11:03

Assume from posts like these that these are the people giving their children doughnuts at the school gates! Why?!

And it IS absolutely everyone's business how future adults are being raised.

I am 63 years of age and haven’t ventured near a school gate for years. Even when I did the school run I found the school gate to be the most toxic, competitive place on the planet, full of nosey judgmental, point scoring parents (bit like mumsnet) and never went near.
I have two grown up sons who ate sweets and junk food in moderation. They might even have had a bit of junk in their lunch boxes! They are both healthy happy adults. What one parent chooses to feed their child should not be of concern to anyone else unless severe abuse is involved. I find it funny that you consider other people’s children, and their dietary habits, of such intense concern.
I read so much nonsense on here about MIL causing upset by getting involved with her own grandkids (apparently a capital offence) but you assume the right to have a say on the parenting skills of total strangers!
I promise you when the kids have flown the nest, the grandparents are dead and there is time to reflect all the false concern and point scoring you read here will show itself to be irrelevant, petty and childish. I speak from experience.

PancakeCloud · Yesterday 12:25

yabu to judge and be so goady

Kirbert2 · Yesterday 12:25

muggart · Yesterday 12:22

In all fairness your situation sounds very extreme. The majority of the parents who feed their children crap will almost definitely have more options available to them than you.

It was made very clear that my son has a restricted diet due to medical reasons.

The conversation at that point wasn't about the majority of parents, it was about those who have children with restricted diets such as ND and other medical reasons.

Skippythemagnificent · Yesterday 12:27

Summerhillsquare · Yesterday 09:54

All of you with clever ripostes to the OP, who are you expecting to pay for and provide health care including dentistry for kids with poor diets? No one's teeth rot overnight, nobody becomes obese spontaneously. It starts somewhere, and ends somewhere.

There was a report the other day saying that kids teeth are the best they’ve been in several years. Fewer cavities etc.

TheCabbageMerchant · Yesterday 12:27

Apotofrealcoffee · Yesterday 12:21

But nobody is objecting to the ‘occasional bag of crisps’. They’re objecting to the sheer amount of junk kids get fed by lazy parents, meaning we have terrifying obesity rates and the most common reason for kids to need emergency dentistry is to have their teeth pulled out due to cavities!

No. Go back to your original post. You were objecting to the one child you saw being given one bag of sweets with no other context. Don't dress it up to be something else now 😆

x2boys · Yesterday 12:28

LowlandLucky · Yesterday 12:08

I am sat here laughing at all these mums on here coming up with excuses . Just admit some mums feed their offspring on a diet of pure crap. No child needs crisps the second they come out of school. If they are hungry give them fruit, carrot sticks, apple slices or a sandwich.
I sat in Greggs the other day and watched a very obese 5/6 yearold shove cale, pasty and full fat drink down her throat. 10 minutes later her and her mum ( finally put her phone down) were in a shop, mum opened a large sharing bag of crisps without a single word and shoved them into her daughters hand. That was not a snap shot, that was that child's life. No child should be that fat.

You have just admitted you yourself were in Greggs....

ihateprobability · Yesterday 12:28

In many cases I would call children’s diets abuse

I also know adults who view their childhood diet as abuse for which they are paying the consequences with poor health and weight management difficulties.

and I know of one such adult who is feeding her children with care and love, encouraging them to walk to school and generally not being the parent her parent was. Breaking the chain.

little chubby children should be a warning sign

WhatATimeToBeAlive · Yesterday 12:31

I agree. Kids just seem to be constantly stuffing their faces as if they can't go 15 minutes with eating something. Probably why we have an obesity crisis in the young.

Ladybird04 · Yesterday 12:31

I quite often hear the argument : Kids with restrictions will binge eat sugar or develop an eating disorder. In Sweden children are usually only allowed sweets once a week, on a Saturday to be more specific. A tradition that’s been going on for decades. Sugar is also more or less banned from preschools and schools in Sweden. I’ve lived in both countries and I’m gonna let you guess: Which country has got the biggest problem by miles when it comes to obesity?

TheCabbageMerchant · Yesterday 12:31

Apotofrealcoffee · Yesterday 10:14

Absolutely, it’s now a societal issue. A quarter of the kids look like James Cordon at his biggest. It’s shameful. And this ‘be kind, dont judge’ is just permissiveness that allows it to be acceptable.

Okay.

And other than judging people on a message board, if you are so concerned about it, what are YOU doing about it. Personally. How are you contributing to fixing this societal problem?

Individual people feeding their kids kale and quinoa three times s day isn't going to do diddly squat.

So, aside from being houlier than thou, how are you going to productively channel this concern for society and the future generations of our country?

Because, without that, it's throwing stones isn't it.

EarthlyNightshade · Yesterday 12:32

IronEverything · Yesterday 10:37

Imagine being so bothered about a child eating a sweet. Get a bloody grip.

Almost one quarter of 10-11 year olds in England are obese.
What do you think might be contributing to that?

And also, do you think this has no effect on society as a whole?

muggart · Yesterday 12:33

EveningSpread · Yesterday 11:50

This is not something I recognise. Perhaps it’s the area you live in.

Well all schools provide dessert every bloody day, so clearly this is an embedded issue in our culture.

there are very new guidelines which will force schools to cut down on the crap but they were only announced in september and still allow room for schools to give our children junk food.